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MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released
#312058 - 07/27/13 04:56 PM


MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released!

As request by some mameworld people I have added a new lightgun(fun) touch mode.

Changelog:

Added tap on touchscreen as a lightgun device.
Added Tilt sensor option to tap anywhere on screen to fire.
Some bug fixes.

You can download at:

https://code.google.com/p/imame4all/

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EONCuhwSW24" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/EONCuhwSW24</a>

Enjoy.

Edited by ahh (07/27/13 08:11 PM)



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312060 - 07/27/13 06:06 PM


> MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released!
>
> As request by some mameworld people I have added a new lightgun(fun) touch mode.
>
> Changelog:
>
> Added tap on touchscreen as a lightgun device.
> Added Tilt sensor option to tap anywhere on screen to fire.
> Some bug fixes.
>
> You can download at:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/imame4all/
>
> Enjoy.

Just installed it, fired up PacMan and the joystick doesn't work except in the main screen. Once a game starts, the joystick does nothing. Exit out of the game and it works fine again. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the great app and any help you could provide.

-Mc



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: McHale]
#312062 - 07/27/13 06:36 PM


> > MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released!
> >
> > As request by some mameworld people I have added a new lightgun(fun) touch mode.
> >
> > Changelog:
> >
> > Added tap on touchscreen as a lightgun device.
> > Added Tilt sensor option to tap anywhere on screen to fire.
> > Some bug fixes.
> >
> > You can download at:
> >
> > https://code.google.com/p/imame4all/
> >
> > Enjoy.
>
> Just installed it, fired up PacMan and the joystick doesn't work except in the main
> screen. Once a game starts, the joystick does nothing. Exit out of the game and it
> works fine again. Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks for the great app and any help you could provide.
>
> -Mc

Light gun mode only must be enabled for light gun games like operation wolf.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312068 - 07/27/13 10:40 PM


What version of Mame is this based off of? I am hoping it is a later build, and has the Touch screen games like the Megatouch and Touch Master series of games. I am dying to play Pool Pairs from the Touch Master 8000 with touch instead of a mouse (PC).



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: sirscotty]
#312069 - 07/27/13 11:24 PM


0.139. Touchmaster works pretty well, but you need a powerful tablet or phone.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312073 - 07/28/13 12:01 AM



> Added tap on touchscreen as a lightgun device.
> Added Tilt sensor option to tap anywhere on screen to fire.

Cool effect.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312077 - 07/28/13 12:52 AM



>
> Light gun mode only must be enabled for light gun games like operation wolf.

no. The joystick doesn't work on ANY game. I have lightgun support disabled.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: McHale]
#312078 - 07/28/13 01:02 AM




Strange.

Do you have enabled tilt sensor? Disable it.

If not, try to do a full uninstall. Delete CFG folder besides rom folder as well.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312079 - 07/28/13 01:09 AM


Was thinking of getting a Samsung Tab, I guess this seals the deal! Thanks so much!!



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: sirscotty]
#312082 - 07/28/13 01:44 AM


I recommend you a nexus 10 or newer nexus 7.

Top hw and run mame4droid very well.

Samsung OS updates are few.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312089 - 07/28/13 04:44 AM


I have an HTC EVO 3D with a dual core 1.2 processor. How well can I expect games to run? CP3? MIDWAY Wolf Unit games?



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312090 - 07/28/13 04:50 AM


ahhh wrote:

Changelog:

Added NVIDIA Shield support.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hello ahhh.....the nvidia shield will be shipping this week. I am saving up and will seriously consider getting one. How well do you expect games running on this emulator to run? The processor is said to be leaps and bounds better than even the galaxy S4. Can we expect say, full speed in Mortal Kombat II and UMK3?



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312103 - 07/28/13 06:48 AM


Yes I have a nvidia shield to develop with and I have tested umk3 and it run full speed without hacks.

Nvidia shield is a great device to play mame4droid. Currently the best hw I have tested.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312110 - 07/28/13 11:13 AM


> Yes I have a nvidia shield to develop with and I have tested umk3 and it run full
> speed without hacks.
>
> Nvidia shield is a great device to play mame4droid. Currently the best hw I have
> tested.

I will love get one of these. Not right now. Gotta save money first.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312111 - 07/28/13 11:42 AM


> Yes I have a nvidia shield to develop with and I have tested umk3 and it run full
> speed without hacks.
>
> Nvidia shield is a great device to play mame4droid. Currently the best hw I have
> tested.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sounds awesome man!

Wonder if it'll run saturn, PS1, PS2 and gameCube games?



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Dullaron]
#312121 - 07/28/13 03:55 PM


Bluetooth 3.0? Why $350 bucks for a handheld... and they're using out of date hardware? They must be crawling with ex Apple employees.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312125 - 07/28/13 06:47 PM


> Wonder if it'll run saturn, PS1, PS2 and gameCube games?

Maybe, yes, no, no. Shield is a great leap forward for ARM, but in x86 PC terms it's about a high-end Pentium III or original AMD Athlon.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: URherenow]
#312132 - 07/28/13 08:57 PM


> Bluetooth 3.0? Why $350 bucks for a handheld... and they're using out of date
> hardware? They must be crawling with ex Apple employees.

Is it that bad? My guesting that the PSP is better. lol



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Dullaron]
#312136 - 07/28/13 09:30 PM


really 300$...

Bluetooth 4,0 ... who cares for a handheld

Really important it is double band MIMO wifi that runs fine on 5Ghz band, not like most phones or tablets out there.

Also battery last 6 hours....

best handheld i ever had



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312139 - 07/28/13 10:03 PM




FYI,

I uninstalled, deleted the folder from the SD card and reinstalled. Works fine now. NO idea what the problem was before.

Thanks again.

-Mc



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312141 - 07/28/13 10:25 PM


> ahhh wrote:
>
> Changelog:
>
> Added NVIDIA Shield support.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Hello ahhh.....the nvidia shield will be shipping this week. I am saving up and will
> seriously consider getting one. How well do you expect games running on this emulator
> to run? The processor is said to be leaps and bounds better than even the galaxy S4.
> Can we expect say, full speed in Mortal Kombat II and UMK3?

I'm thinking the same thing, it'd be a perfect fit.
The Tegra 4 SoC should be pretty well suited to running those games. It's got a better chance than a Tegra 3, assuming that didn't already have the horsepower to run them.

-xemumanic-



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: R. Belmont]
#312175 - 07/29/13 08:43 AM


> > Wonder if it'll run saturn, PS1, PS2 and gameCube games?

> Maybe, yes, no, no. Shield is a great leap forward for ARM, but in x86 PC terms it's
> about a high-end Pentium III or original AMD Athlon.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


That's cool, I'll settle for that! Just the idea of being able to run 99%(?) of all 2D MAME games at full speed while waiting for a pepperoni pizza in the lobby of Little Ceasers is fucking AWESOME!!!!!!!!

>>>>>>>

really 300$...
>
> Bluetooth 4,0 ... who cares for a handheld
>
> Really important it is double band MIMO wifi that runs fine on 5Ghz band, not like
> most phones or tablets out there.
>
> Also battery last 6 hours....
>
> best handheld i ever had


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dammit ahhh, you're not making the wait until I have enough money to get one any easier



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312200 - 07/30/13 01:53 AM


awesome update. Now I can play Lethal Enforcers without having to deal with the annoying auto center thingy it used to do. I just gotta know how off screen reloading works on a tablet though.

Edited by figment1988 (07/30/13 01:54 AM)



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: figment1988]
#312211 - 07/30/13 09:05 AM


Normally, you should touch outside game window. This works fine with most of roms like under fire.. Lethal enforces driver seems to have some kind of issue because reload it is not working. Maybe forcing mame reload option with forces and absolute value on one axis, do the job. I will take a look.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312217 - 07/30/13 11:34 AM


ahh, what are your thoughts on how this version of mame compares to the one contained in the Android version of RetroArch?

Edited by Outrun2006 (07/30/13 11:35 AM)



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312218 - 07/30/13 12:13 PM


Retroarch is fine for low end devices. It performs better becouse is based in and old core. But retroarch it is a multiemulator and lacks a lot of features that have mane4droid. Personally I think their touch control is the worst out there... But I really like retroarch and I use for other cores.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: figment1988]
#312256 - 07/31/13 01:22 AM


> awesome update. Now I can play Lethal Enforcers without having to deal with the
> annoying auto center thingy it used to do. I just gotta know how off screen reloading
> works on a tablet though.

I already know how to do off screen reload on Letal Enforces.

You should touch outside the game window as i said before, but in this ROM only in the bottom area. That's means you need to play on portrait or on landscape but not scaling so you have some bottom window area to touch.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312272 - 07/31/13 01:04 PM


> Retroarch is fine for low end devices. It performs better becouse is based in and old
> core. But retroarch it is a multiemulator and lacks a lot of features that have
> mane4droid. Personally I think their touch control is the worst out there... But I
> really like retroarch and I use for other cores.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Yeah I hear ya. It's pretty cool. Only thing I'm worried about with using the RA version, is having to regress to a much older romset, and the fact that there's been TONS of games added to MAME since 0.78. It's the reason your MAME4droid is more attractive for me since 0.139 is still fairly new, relatively speaking.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312295 - 08/01/13 04:31 AM


> Yeah I hear ya. It's pretty cool. Only thing I'm worried about with using the RA
> version, is having to regress to a much older romset, and the fact that there's been
> TONS of games added to MAME since 0.78. It's the reason your MAME4droid is more
> attractive for me since 0.139 is still fairly new, relatively speaking.

My Shield came today, so we'll see about getting actually new MAME into peoples' hands.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: R. Belmont]
#312296 - 08/01/13 06:30 AM


> > Yeah I hear ya. It's pretty cool. Only thing I'm worried about with using the RA
> > version, is having to regress to a much older romset, and the fact that there's
> been
> > TONS of games added to MAME since 0.78. It's the reason your MAME4droid is more
> > attractive for me since 0.139 is still fairly new, relatively speaking.
>
> My Shield came today, so we'll see about getting actually new MAME into peoples'
> hands.

Hi Belmont. That's sound amazing.

Shield only needed ARM dynarec to run mame at its full potential and you have the knowledge to do the best work in this side.

This device it's is done to play MAME. You are going to enjoy your shield sure.

Meantime, I'm going to work on the netplay stuff (on the 0.139) with google play services with join rooms to meet people on games and some kind of leader boards based on hiscores patch, maybe this device lets do some rollback stuff like ggpo to get zero lag. A lot of hacking that I suppose you don't like in a official port.

Edited by ahh (08/01/13 06:59 AM)



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#312299 - 08/01/13 12:57 PM



>
> My Shield came today, so we'll see about getting actually new MAME into peoples'
> hands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

U DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312300 - 08/01/13 01:02 PM



>
> Meantime, I'm going to work on the netplay stuff (on the 0.139) with google play
> services with join rooms to meet people on games and some kind of leader boards based
> on hiscores patch, maybe this device lets do some rollback stuff like ggpo to get
> zero lag. A lot of hacking that I suppose you don't like in a official port.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Holy smokes! netplay via bluetooth or wifi hotspot would be the bomb!!! If you pull that off with ggpo-like performance, that will be GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312309 - 08/01/13 05:32 PM


> This device it's is done to play MAME. You are going to enjoy your shield sure.

Already am. It's a little rough getting used to the concept of full-strength GTA Vice City in 720P on a handheld with proper controls, but I'll live ;-)

> Meantime, I'm going to work on the netplay stuff (on the 0.139) with google play
> services with join rooms to meet people on games and some kind of leader boards based
> on hiscores patch, maybe this device lets do some rollback stuff like ggpo to get
> zero lag. A lot of hacking that I suppose you don't like in a official port.

I strongly recommend you keep any netplay stuff as close as possible to ClientServerMAME - his netplay is the most likely of all the options out there to land in the core, so (re)using his code would be to your advantage.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: R. Belmont]
#312313 - 08/01/13 08:07 PM


>
> Already am. It's a little rough getting used to the concept of full-strength GTA Vice
> City in 720P on a handheld with proper controls, but I'll live ;-)
>

Yes. You right. But it's perfect for arcade games.

> > Meantime, I'm going to work on the netplay stuff (on the 0.139) with google play
> > services with join rooms to meet people on games and some kind of leader boards
> based
> > on hiscores patch, maybe this device lets do some rollback stuff like ggpo to get
> > zero lag. A lot of hacking that I suppose you don't like in a official port.
>
> I strongly recommend you keep any netplay stuff as close as possible to
> ClientServerMAME - his netplay is the most likely of all the options out there to
> land in the core, so (re)using his code would be to your advantage.

In fact, I was digging on clientservermame source code when I was developing ios netplay and I had some desyncs that was driven me crazy. Finally I choose another approach, more simpler but that works well in peer games keeping the latency low.

Edited by ahh (08/01/13 08:08 PM)



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312334 - 08/02/13 01:08 PM


A very good write up from SP at the RA forums:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



Performance-wise this thing leaves everything in the dust right now. It even plays Mednafen PSX at non-slideshow framerates. I'll do some proper speed measurements with the various cores later on but so far this is one area where this thing delivers on the hype at least - VBA Next is fullspeed with both FF5 and FF6 so CPU-wise it's already way better than PS3. I have yet to test shaders extensively - I'm expecting sub-Intel HD4K performance but even that would be very, very good for an Android-based 'tablet'.

Bad thing about it - it's Android - audio/video latency is still not right even though audio latency has vastly been improved - despite all the improvements it's still quite bad compared to an iPad sad to say. You can avoid audio crackling by turning threaded video on but that will introduce jitter in video instead. It really depends on whether you can stomach frameskip-like tearing video - that's what it basically comes down to. It is less than ideal in any case compared to just turning vsync on and having audio/video sync be mostly stable - iPads/iPhones sure as hell deliver there thanks to CoreAudio and iOS.

Best results for now is to enable threaded video and set 'Forced refreshrate' to 59.6 and put up with the jittering for now. Maister is going to look at some kind of adaptive jittering method for threaded video using timers - so we'll see how this pans out.

Anyway - I can pretty much confirm by now that this issue is entirely related to Android and it is not hardware-related at all - this thing smokes every single ARM device under the sun right now but unfortunately the OS can't deliver on tight emulator audio/video sync usecases - which is why for practical purposes an iPad 2/Mini could still beat it on that level. So for now - either you sacrifice non-tearing, non-jitter video or you sacrifice audio quality.

Hopefully at some point we can arrive at a 'hack' that can solve this problem for us on Android for most devices - it is a platform too big to ignore but at the same time it's an OS too shit to be able to do the job properly through conventional means.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Wow. Sounds like a beast.



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312337 - 08/02/13 02:42 PM


Anyway RA developers are a little inflexible. Their dynamic rate system and not frame skipping dogmas have been given they a lot of headaches on android platform. Mame4droid runs smooth like butter on android with the sync code from mame devs. So shield is a good emulation platform independly of RA developing approach, which probabbly is fine for other platforms like iOs. My only complaint is sound latency but android devs are doing improvements.

Edited by ahh (08/02/13 02:47 PM)



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#312339 - 08/02/13 02:50 PM


> Anyway RA developers are a little inflexible. Their dynamic rate system and not frame
> skipping dogmas have been given they a lot of headaches on android platform.
> Mame4droid runs smooth like butter on android with the sync code from mame devs. So
> shield is a good emulation platform independly of RA developing approach, which
> probabbly is fine for other platforms like iOs. My only complaint is sound latency
> but android devs are doing improvements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Interesting. Do you suspect the sound latency issues will be much improved, or even 99% eliminated on JellyBean 4.3?



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: Outrun2006]
#312341 - 08/02/13 02:55 PM


No. On 4.3 needs improvements yet. Low latency it is only on some devices. But probably the latency is fine for most of users.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/05/wh...roid-of-choice/

Edited by ahh (08/02/13 03:00 PM)



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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312342 - 08/02/13 03:03 PM


> No. On 4.3 needs improvements yet. Low latency it is only on some devices. But
> probably the latency is fine for most of users.
>
> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/05/wh...roid-of-choice/

ahh:
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Re: MAME4droid Reloaded 1.4 Released new [Re: ahh]
#312345 - 08/02/13 05:10 PM


> No. On 4.3 needs improvements yet. Low latency it is only on some devices. But
> probably the latency is fine for most of users.

Yeah, but there's a wide gulf between "fine for most users" and, say, this.

Google wouldn't have had this problem in the first place if they'd simply shipped the desktop Linux audio/MIDI stack, but apparently "not invented here" trumps "don't be evil".



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#312382 - 08/03/13 11:47 PM


Matter fact I got the Tron Legacy (Amazon MP3 Exclusive Version) [+Digital Booklet].



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