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DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more
#367395 - 07/01/17 04:37 PM





Fabrice Arzeno got a prototype of Bubble Bobble

http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/bbproto.jpg

Phil Bennett dumped Fighting Vipers Rev B

http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/vipersb.jpg

rtw dumped Virtua Fighter 4 (GDT-0014)

http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/vf4.jpg





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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367396 - 07/01/17 04:38 PM


> Fabrice Arzeno got a prototype of Bubble Bobble

oh, man. that's interesting!!



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype- Hey! you got your pcb in my epoxy <NT>! new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367402 - 07/01/17 06:30 PM





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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367403 - 07/01/17 06:51 PM


Nice. Any cool differences with the Bubble Bobble proto?



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367404 - 07/01/17 07:02 PM


Huh, this red like thingy look like epoxy

Now wait for news and screens (dfferences)



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Big Karnak]
#367406 - 07/01/17 08:16 PM


> Nice. Any cool differences with the Bubble Bobble proto?

It runs on a Tokio/Scramble Formation PCB, which is lacking the YM3526 that produces music in the final game. Unfortunately the PCB currently has no sound. The sprite data is different; there are various sprites missing compared to the final release. There's also no protection MCU but that's not a big surprise. I'm sure tcrf.net will have fun with this once it's fully dumped...



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367423 - 07/01/17 10:40 PM



> rtw dumped Virtua Fighter 4 (GDT-0014)
> Striker
> http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/vf4.jpg

Fix'd !



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Phil Bennett]
#367429 - 07/01/17 11:20 PM


> > Nice. Any cool differences with the Bubble Bobble proto?
>
> It runs on a Tokio/Scramble Formation PCB, which is lacking the YM3526 that produces
> music in the final game. Unfortunately the PCB currently has no sound. The sprite
> data is different; there are various sprites missing compared to the final release.
> There's also no protection MCU but that's not a big surprise. I'm sure tcrf.net will
> have fun with this once it's fully dumped...

maybe it simply has no sound at this point in development, given the sound hardware isn't the same I wouldn't rule that out.



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367432 - 07/02/17 04:01 AM


> Fabrice Arzeno got a prototype of Bubble Bobble
>
> http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/bbproto.jpg

I thought "awesome, a proto!" and then I saw the photo.



How the hell did this get dumped!?



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Kitsune Sniper]
#367433 - 07/02/17 04:07 AM


Is that Keanu Reeves' acting mentor?



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Kitsune Sniper]
#367435 - 07/02/17 04:35 AM


> > Fabrice Arzeno got a prototype of Bubble Bobble
> >
> > http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/bbproto.jpg
>
> I thought "awesome, a proto!" and then I saw the photo.
>
>
> How the hell did this get dumped!?

Only the graphics ROMs have been dumped. The program ROMs are covered by the epoxy and the solder side is epoxied too so we can't use non-destructive methods to dump them. Brizzo has a cunning plan to deal with the epoxy however



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367440 - 07/02/17 05:11 AM


> Is that Keanu Reeves' acting mentor?

What

HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW ITALIAN SPIDERMAN




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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Phil Bennett]
#367441 - 07/02/17 05:12 AM


> > > Fabrice Arzeno got a prototype of Bubble Bobble
> > >
> > > http://smitdogg.mameworld.info/pics/july1-2017/bbproto.jpg
> >
> > I thought "awesome, a proto!" and then I saw the photo.
> >
> >
> > How the hell did this get dumped!?
>
> Only the graphics ROMs have been dumped. The program ROMs are covered by the epoxy
> and the solder side is epoxied too so we can't use non-destructive methods to dump
> them. Brizzo has a cunning plan to deal with the epoxy however

Well, best of luck to him! All that epoxy freaked the hell outta me. :x



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Kitsune Sniper]
#367442 - 07/02/17 05:15 AM


Of course I know gregf



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Kitsune Sniper]
#367450 - 07/02/17 06:28 AM


I wonder why someone would go to the trouble of epoxying a 1-off proto board like that...



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: jonwil]
#367457 - 07/02/17 07:47 AM


Because it could lead to 1,000 bootlegs and epoxying stuff is no trouble.



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Phil Bennett]
#367471 - 07/02/17 03:32 PM


you can check difference between proto and actual set here

Main diffence is proto has less sprite, but there is also tiny differences and color changes






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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: Smitdogg]
#367488 - 07/03/17 12:03 AM



>Of course I know gregf

Not me. Sweaters....don't wear any of 'em...especially if they have some comic book hero logo printed on the sweater.



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Re: DU: Bubble Bobble prototype and more new [Re: zozo00]
#367507 - 07/03/17 02:10 PM




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