MAMEWorld Forums - The Loony Bin - Re: S**t the New King James version is out, why wasnt I told!!!!????

> > Theologians, priests etc. commenting on moral issues are a joke. We don't need
> > religion for moral guidance. Their comments on creation and evolution are just
> plain
> > wrong and seriously damaging to the education of children.
> >
>
> What about someone that has done things they now regret and are merely passing along
> sage advice to others that might be following the same path they took, like saying;
> "Don't do ______ because it will come back to bite you in the end."
>
> They can be listened to (right?), but when you get around to it - the Theologians,
> Priests, Pastors, Preachers, etc. are saying the same thing. "Don't do ______." But
> since they believe in a "fairy tale" that makes everything else they say
> illegitimate...?

I have no problem with people passing on their experience of life to others and trying to help them avoid mistakes they made. My beef is with the pedestal Theologians, Priest, Pastors etc. are placed on as if they are somehow more qualified to give advice on subjects they often have no clue about.

> And how does having a different view on (what can only be) origins of life or the
> universe harm anyone?

Teaching people the world was created a few thousand years ago is a lie, teaching them evolution did not happen is a lie. These are well proven any other explanation is a lie, its as simple as that.

>Thinking things came about from nothing with no cause or reason
> isn't any more ridiculous than an infinite eternal being making stuff just by
> speaking it into existence.

And why does there have to be a "reason" for the universe? Just because we don't understand the first few moments of the universe it doesn't then follow that it was invoked by some "higher" power.

> > The human race does not need religion in any shape or form. Religion has done
> nothing
> > for us but pile on misery and oppression by the bucket load. I know some people
> find
> > it comforting but so what? some people find Heroin comforting.
> >
>
> Try telling that to the person that has been set free from destructive/sinful
> lifestyle choices. They will tell it could only have been God that set them free,
> even after trying for many years.

So what, that doesn't mean it was God. Its their interpretation, it sounds more likely that it was the group of people who gave them the support to change their life. That they happen to have been a religious group who ended up making them believe "God" helped them proves nothing.

> Or, on the flip side of the coin (something I can attest to) the things having a
> religion can keep people from... and having the moral judgement or standards to not
> do things that could be the biggest mistake/s of their lives.

Good family support and a good network of friends does the same thing, religion is unnecessary.

> > I'm sick of religion trying to hide the real world from him people, we should be
> > encouraged to try and understand the universe and not be satisfied by those who
> seek
> > to hide its true beauty and the thrill of knowing the time we have in which to
> > understand and enjoy it is limited and precious.
> >
>
> I don't know where you're getting that from. But... Take ID. All things in nature or
> in the universe can really be appreciated when looked at as something like a work of
> art... A perfect work of art. & Eternity is a long time... It could allow for some
> time to get around and not only study things, but truly understand them. Yet, if
> there were nothing waiting for us beyond this life... that - I find depressing.

Intelligent design is just creationism 2.0 its flawed and wrong. The true beauty of the universe is trying to understand how it came into being. How the stars formed and how they in turn produce the elements necessary for life to occur and how that life evolved into the myriad of life we see all around us. Knowing that everything I'm made from was forged in a star and that when I die everything I am made from will be returned to the universe it came from to make something else, now that is beautiful.

Stop worrying about what happens when you die and start living your life and discovering the real world.

There is no sin except stupidity.