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StevieWunderful
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Re: Improved Vector Rendering
05/09/11 06:17 AM


Sorry, but AAE's simulation is absolute crap compared to what this guy has done.

I own a Vector game, Asteroids Deluxe, and have friends with Tempest's, Starwars, etc.. who I visit well enough to know how vectors look.

AAE is too exaggerated, the glow spots overlap each other making an even brighter spot, which Never happens in a real machine... and the glow extends way too far. This is only One of the many flaws of AAEs use of shader effect, instead of a real simulation, which it appears this man has done.

His effects are very a million times more closer to the real deal.

The only thing I didnt like was the image ghosting (persistence?) . Where you see the bullet two times in a row, one being a little more faint. That effect is a little too exaggerated.

I have to wonder however, if its because hes using a slower refreshing LCD, instead of the CRT Im using. A delay in response time (lag) might cause the effect to be reduced.

Also, I really dont notice the image ghosting much if at all on my AD. I think you only really see it when you try to make a video of the machine. Ill have to fire it up again to check more closely.

One thing Id like to see for at least Asteriods & Deluxe, is an enhanced bullet effect. The bullets are still way too dim compared to the real machine. I realize theres no way to fully recreate this, cause vector monitors can reach laser-like intensity...

BUT, I believe if you dim the rest of the game down a little, and use the whitest levels you can get for the bullets, this shifting the spectrum will create the needed contrast levels. Then, a person can choose to crank his own monitor up to insane contrast levels to boost that effect even more... without the rest of the games graphics looking incorrect.







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* Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ 05/07/11 07:38 PM
. * From the author of AAE. ntisbest  07/28/11 02:45 AM
. * Re: From the author of AAE. H4CK3R  07/31/11 08:00 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Ramirez  05/16/11 03:23 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering krick  05/08/11 06:29 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering R. Belmont  05/07/11 07:59 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/07/11 09:17 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering CiroConsentino  05/07/11 09:43 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/07/11 11:49 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering TheGuru  05/08/11 10:37 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Sune  05/08/11 07:39 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering John IV  05/08/11 04:58 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/08/11 12:42 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/08/11 04:17 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering mogli  05/09/11 01:30 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Gyrovision  05/08/11 01:00 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Kombalar  07/16/12 04:48 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Ziggy100  07/16/12 11:33 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering mogli  05/08/11 12:54 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Sune  05/08/11 06:48 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering jumpmaniac81  05/14/11 05:44 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering mogli  05/09/11 01:24 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StevieWunderful  05/09/11 06:17 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/09/11 05:48 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StevieWunderful  05/09/11 11:02 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/09/11 11:24 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StevieWunderful  05/10/11 08:06 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/10/11 06:07 PM
. * Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor mogli  05/12/11 06:50 AM
. * Re: Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor R. Belmont  05/19/11 03:58 PM
. * Re: Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor Vas Crabb  05/19/11 04:18 PM
. * Re: Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor Anonymous  11/25/11 08:06 AM
. * Re: Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor mogli  11/25/11 08:33 AM
. * Re: Far as I know, the Vec is a true vector monitor mogli  05/20/11 12:16 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StilettoAdministrator  05/10/11 06:42 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/11/11 04:01 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StilettoAdministrator  05/11/11 08:23 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering gregf  05/11/11 09:38 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/11/11 09:11 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StilettoAdministrator  05/12/11 05:15 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering Naoki  05/12/11 02:14 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering CrapBoardSoftware  05/12/11 12:25 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/12/11 08:10 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering biobern  05/15/11 12:34 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering mogli  05/15/11 01:26 AM
. * Improved Vector Rendering DIFF RobeeJ  05/16/11 11:25 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF manivanilli  08/21/12 04:03 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF krick  08/21/12 05:34 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF manivanilli  08/21/12 06:54 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF Nightbringer  08/31/12 03:42 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF mogli  05/18/11 03:23 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF giddygoon  11/24/11 02:13 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF B2K24  11/24/11 04:20 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF giddygoon  11/24/11 10:59 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF Quantum Leaper  05/18/11 05:30 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF mogli  05/19/11 11:04 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF biobern  05/17/11 02:24 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF facelift  05/24/11 09:13 AM
. * Another YouTube clip RobeeJ  05/18/11 01:23 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip biobern  05/30/11 10:43 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip RobeeJ  06/01/11 09:04 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip Envisaged0ne  06/02/11 12:52 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip B2K24  06/02/11 05:11 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip R. Belmont  06/02/11 03:58 PM
. * HLSL new values for vector lines maybe zambr  06/04/11 11:39 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe Trebor  06/04/11 06:23 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe RobeeJ  06/06/11 01:25 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe Mr. DoAdministrator  06/07/11 04:11 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe RobeeJ  06/23/11 01:57 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe zambr  06/24/11 02:25 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe "The Manuel"  07/25/11 11:39 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe RobeeJ  07/26/11 04:37 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe "The Manuel"  07/26/11 06:43 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe zambr  06/04/11 07:00 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe CiroConsentino  06/05/11 03:02 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe zambr  06/05/11 12:46 PM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe Trebor  06/05/11 01:27 AM
. * Re: HLSL new values for vector lines maybe mogli  06/06/11 11:21 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip biobern  06/03/11 06:50 PM
. * You're familiar with the saying, 'Wait to be steam-rollered...' ? (nt) mogli  06/04/11 09:54 AM
. * Re: You're familiar with the saying, 'Wait to be steam-rollered...' ? (nt) biobern  06/04/11 10:43 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip redk9258Moderator  06/03/11 07:23 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip Firehawke  06/02/11 01:22 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip B2K24  06/02/11 09:17 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip redk9258Moderator  06/02/11 05:55 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip mogli  06/02/11 03:43 AM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip Envisaged0ne  06/02/11 08:02 AM
. * Here, try this..... mogli  06/03/11 09:40 AM
. * Re: Here, try this..... Envisaged0ne  06/04/11 10:26 AM
. * Re: Here, try this..... R. Belmont  06/06/11 05:34 PM
. * Re: Here, try this..... mogli  06/07/11 11:12 AM
. * Re: Here, try this..... R. Belmont  06/08/11 08:15 PM
. * Re: Here, try this..... mogli  06/09/11 12:33 PM
. * Re: Here, try this..... Envisaged0ne  06/03/11 04:59 PM
. * Re: Another YouTube clip biobern  05/18/11 11:50 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF StilettoAdministrator  05/17/11 03:51 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF krick  05/17/11 05:42 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF R. Belmont  05/17/11 04:17 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering DIFF CiroConsentino  05/17/11 01:07 PM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering StilettoAdministrator  05/12/11 05:14 AM
. * Re: Improved Vector Rendering RobeeJ  05/09/11 07:10 PM

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