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Re: Reality Check part 2 RB Edition
08/26/11 09:14 AM


The numbers are from BMI GAMING. http://www.bmigaming.com/


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It really doesn't matter if you're talking about an establishment with brand new Arcade machines or if your speaking of a retail store with shelves packed with clothes and other cheap crap with the same inventory retail amount.

The bottom line is, people of today are not spending money or even indulging in the same activities as others did 10 - 30 years ago. People habits have changed.




Firstly, it DOES matter about what type of establishment we are talking about... because Clothing, and Coin Op sales are completely unrelated.

A retailer makes their money selling a cheap pair of socks, and that sells immediately.

An Arcade Company makes their sales within a year or two, and THEN, the arcade Operators (Ops), have to then try to make money with the machine... which can take several years to do so.

Its a long term investment with many of the machines. However, when game companies started coming out with Console Ports in a fairly short timeframe.. the Ops were getting screwed, because early loss of interest. Where as IF the game was wasnt ported as quickly, more people would have played it in the arcade, rather than mostly at home.
As such, they either LOST money on the investment, and or it took much much longer to make any profit at all.

Eventually this leads to not being able to buy NEW games... and thus, (coupled with crappy games that had no real challenge) ,the Arcade Industry pretty much began to crumble out of existence.

I LIVED it. Managed a fairly busy Mall Arcade owned by Namco. So Im very clear on how things work. You however, seem to be more of a fanboy of the games, rather than really wanting to know the truth... you just want to Bend the truth to suit your desire to play games sooner than later.


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If you interviewed most teens around, most couldn't even tell you what an emulator or MAME even is nowadays.




BULLCRAP. Kids today are More aware of emulators than any generation before it. Yeah, they are on their xboxes... with Jtagged pirated games and emulators packed in to boot.

Almost every single portable device that is capable, is being used to put emulators on it, and they are doing so.


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For people to say the 3 year rule or stuff added to MAME is killing sales is pure bullshit.




More Bullcrap. As said before, being an Op is a long term investment. If mame decides to emulate a racing game thats 3yrs out, and the Op got it after the 1st yr it was out in Japan... that means he may have paid well over $7000, and now only has 2yrs to not only get that money back... but to turn a profit. The more exposure and play that game gets in emulation, the less people have a desire to actually go and play it at their location. That plain and simple fact,
even if You are one of the few who dont feel that way.



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because NOTHING can replace playing the real thing




Actually, not everyone cares about exacting experience, so long as its cheap (free). Also, there are ways to get the experience at home, with real controls interfaced, to be equal to or even superior, to the arcade machines.


Tell you what... go buy a $43,000 game, and try to make money on it. And Mame will intentionally emulate it in 3yrs time. We shall see how you feel about this, at the 3rd yr, when you are not even 3/4 way to paying the machine off. Every quarter Counts... and every Lost quarter, is a dent in YOUR Wallet.

Both my location, as well as 2 other busier arcades, all closed down within the last 10yr period. Namco's arcades are closing all over the USA, and arcades as a whole, are almost completely gone. Many of the Ops who put single games in shops... are getting out of the Business, if they havent left already.

The main fault isnt emulation. Its much more complex than that. However, emulating a game too soon, only hastens the process of killing off the remaining arcade industry.







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