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Re: More Videos
09/09/11 05:47 PM


> but what about the fact of the same 3d model is used for all the players (with face
> modifications), plus the referee is not shown in vs2 series, and it has allways the
> same background, for example scud race has more than 30 cars, and a lot of detailed
> backgrounds, and is the most solid game of all, maybe cause it was the game with most
> work on it?

Doesn't matter. The 22 player models aren't all in the same pose, so the fact that the source model data is identical is irrelevant. They have to be processed as 22 individual high-poly characters, and the animation processing is by far the most expensive part. And cars are much cheaper to animate than people. There's no bone hierarchies, no inverse kinematics to calculate, and no motion-capture data to parse. Any half-decent matrix stack setup makes spinning 4 tires trivial. Having seen Scud Race run in wireframe in an emulator, it also has far fewer polys per car even in the close-up view than the players in VS2.

The proof is in the pudding: Scud Race uses less than 25% of the available power of the PowerPC CPU in Step 1.0 (SuperModel currently gets its performance via what MAME calls "idle cheats", so games that run slower mean they are idle less). VS2 uses nearly all of it.







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* Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Conn0rs 09/01/11 10:09 AM
. * Re: New videos of The Lost World, Sega Rally 2, Daytona USA 2 VirtuaIceMan  09/06/11 11:18 AM
. * More Videos Bart T.  09/06/11 07:17 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/06/11 09:53 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/06/11 10:00 PM
. * Re: More Videos karadaniano  09/08/11 04:30 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/08/11 09:12 PM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/08/11 11:04 PM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/08/11 11:13 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/08/11 11:54 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 02:35 AM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/09/11 05:22 AM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 05:47 AM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/09/11 04:46 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 07:39 PM
. * Re: More Videos karadaniano  09/09/11 07:59 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 08:23 PM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/09/11 09:21 PM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/13/11 10:36 AM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/16/11 02:31 AM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/16/11 02:44 PM
. * Re: More Videos Outrun2006  09/17/11 01:49 AM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/17/11 11:32 AM
. * Re: More Videos Outrun2006  09/18/11 10:17 AM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/16/11 07:08 PM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/16/11 07:17 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/16/11 07:51 PM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/16/11 08:21 PM
. * Re: More Videos Outrun2006  09/16/11 09:12 AM
. * Re: More Videos CrapBoardSoftware  09/16/11 11:30 AM
. * Re: More Videos microsnk  09/15/11 09:32 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/16/11 08:51 PM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/16/11 08:56 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/16/11 09:26 PM
. * Re: More Videos Outrun2006  09/17/11 01:40 AM
. * Re: More Videos karadaniano  09/09/11 08:59 PM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/09/11 02:03 PM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/09/11 04:48 PM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/09/11 07:16 PM
. * Re: More Videos karadaniano  09/09/11 05:10 PM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/09/11 05:47 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 07:35 PM
. * Re: More Videos R. Belmont  09/09/11 09:13 PM
. * Re: More Videos karadaniano  09/09/11 07:28 PM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/09/11 12:36 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/09/11 07:53 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/09/11 04:27 PM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/09/11 12:36 AM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/09/11 12:25 AM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/08/11 11:24 PM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/08/11 11:02 PM
. * Re: More Videos AnimalBear  09/08/11 11:25 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/07/11 05:37 AM
. * Re: More Videos Ceto  09/06/11 09:40 PM
. * Re: More Videos Bart T.  09/06/11 09:46 PM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/07/11 12:00 PM
. * Re: More Videos VirtuaIceMan  09/06/11 07:47 PM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/08/11 03:19 AM
. * Re: More Videos Outrun2006  09/08/11 09:51 AM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/08/11 01:47 PM
. * Re: More Videos Matty_  09/09/11 12:55 AM
. * Re: More Videos bart lover  09/09/11 03:38 PM
. * Re: More Videos SmitdoggAdministrator  09/08/11 03:50 PM
. * Re: More Videos BadMouth  09/08/11 04:11 PM
. * Re: More Videos RetroRepair  09/08/11 10:41 AM
. * Re: New videos of The Lost World, Sega Rally 2, Daytona USA 2 JacKc  09/06/11 12:23 PM
. * Re: New videos of The Lost World, Sega Rally 2, Daytona USA 2 Bart T.  09/06/11 07:15 PM
. * Re: New videos of The Lost World, Sega Rally 2, Daytona USA 2 bart lover  09/06/11 11:58 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos JustSaiyanPaul  09/04/11 04:57 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos GraphicArts  09/03/11 10:45 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos RetroRepair  09/03/11 09:55 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Bart T.  09/03/11 07:44 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos RetroRepair  09/04/11 10:12 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos karadaniano  09/01/11 11:30 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Anonymous  09/02/11 01:18 AM
. * I would love to see it dumped first. ;) *nt* Bart T.  09/02/11 02:33 AM
. * Re: I would love to see it dumped first. ;) *nt* Anonymous  09/02/11 02:55 PM
. * Re: I would love to see it dumped first. ;) *nt* AnimalBear  09/02/11 04:29 PM
. * Re: I would love to see it dumped first. ;) *nt* bart lover  09/02/11 06:21 PM
. * Dude, what is UP with your username??! *nt* StilettoAdministrator  09/02/11 08:34 PM
. * Re: Dude, what is UP with your username??! *nt* B2K24  09/02/11 09:58 PM
. * "Chris Hansen, Dateline NBC. Why are you naked with a 6-pack of Natty Light?" *nt* R. Belmont  09/06/11 05:20 PM
. * Re: I would love to see it dumped first. ;) *nt* B2K24  09/02/11 04:28 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos bart lover  09/01/11 05:58 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Bart T.  09/01/11 07:31 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Outrun2006  09/18/11 10:40 AM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos GreatLamer  09/01/11 04:50 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos AnimalBear  09/01/11 04:12 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Bart T.  09/01/11 07:30 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Ceto  09/01/11 04:05 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Bart T.  09/01/11 07:29 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos RetroLover  09/01/11 11:03 PM
. * Re: Supermodel Emulator Update + videos Tomu Breidah  09/01/11 11:28 AM

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