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Re: Why I don't care for American politicians...
02/28/12 10:37 PM


> http://theromanroad.org/

I read that twice today and gave it some thought.

It's sad. It sounds like they're drafting new recruits and the target audience are desperate and suffering people with no love in their lives and 1 hp left.

I have a problem with these two:

"When we are still in our sin, we have no life with God. We are alive physically but dead spiritually. If we continue in that condition, we will be separated from God for all eternity."

"We can choose to love ourselves and turn to our selfish pursuits. That is sin. In our sin we cannot know God and His love. The result of sin is that we are lost... separated from God."

I've done some bad things in my life, but none that are so bad that I have become "dead spiritually". "dead spiritually" is a heroin junkie living in the street thinking about nothing else except where he can score his next fix, it's rock bottom.

Nor am I lost, in any sense of the word. And frankly I find the idea that loving yourself and "turning to selfish pursuits" is a sin, offensive. If I didn't love myself, If it wasn't for my "selfish pursuits" I wouldn't be where I am today. I've made some personal sacrifices sure, but I didn't step on anybody's face to get here.
I've "turned the other cheek" plenty of times in my life but you have to draw the line somewhere. Self love, self preservation. I can't have this love or strength coming from some imaginary external place, it doesn't work for me. My strength, my foundation has to come from within.

This whole idea of turning everything over to God is giving me the creeps.

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* Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard 02/26/12 09:57 PM
. * I remember when. I remember when I lost my mind Hizzout  02/28/12 05:51 PM
. * Short answer, "Because I'm an American." _nt_ aavada  02/27/12 09:31 PM
. * Christbait/Trollbait Gyrovision  02/27/12 06:50 PM
. * HE WAS CHRISTERBATING HE WAS CHRISTERBATING SmitdoggAdministrator  02/27/12 09:35 PM
. * So it has come to this... _nt_ aavada  02/28/12 03:36 AM
. * Re: We've run out of cat food? (nt) TriggerFin  02/28/12 04:59 AM
. * Ain't life grand...<nt> italieAdministrator  02/28/12 04:23 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/27/12 06:41 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:47 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/28/12 03:11 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/28/12 08:51 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/28/12 08:49 AM
. * And what of this Xenu chap I read about in Dianetics? <nT> italieAdministrator  02/28/12 08:40 AM
. * Yay! Another sheep! URherenow  02/27/12 12:15 PM
. * Never go full jebus... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 05:50 AM
. * Re: Never go full jebus... GatinhoModerator  02/28/12 04:14 PM
. * Re: Never go full jebus...go full "Monty" instead... gregf  02/27/12 09:48 AM
. * LOFL Darth Mario  02/27/12 02:00 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 01:50 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/27/12 01:31 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 02:29 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/27/12 05:08 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 04:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/27/12 05:05 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 05:14 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 05:59 AM
. * this one is still my favorite... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 05:58 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 04:19 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 05:54 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 10:07 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:24 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 09:30 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 11:42 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 09:43 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 10:18 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 06:31 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 07:58 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 08:09 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 06:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 08:58 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:11 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 08:32 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 07:28 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 08:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 10:37 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/29/12 01:52 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 04:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/29/12 07:36 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 09:09 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/29/12 11:56 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 12:13 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/29/12 06:19 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  03/01/12 04:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 05:38 AM
. * and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/01/12 01:46 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred Bekki Doll  03/01/12 04:49 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/01/12 05:37 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred Bekki Doll  03/01/12 07:28 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred italieAdministrator  03/02/12 05:46 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 06:13 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 04:39 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred hmmmmmm  03/01/12 06:36 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 04:48 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/29/12 07:29 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/29/12 05:02 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 01:03 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  03/01/12 12:32 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  03/01/12 01:28 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  03/01/12 05:38 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  03/01/12 05:20 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... StilettoAdministrator  03/01/12 03:35 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... StilettoAdministrator  02/29/12 06:10 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 06:38 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 08:09 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 08:13 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 08:18 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 08:39 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 09:41 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 09:50 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 01:39 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 04:57 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/28/12 08:30 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 08:50 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 07:08 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 05:21 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 11:16 PM
. * I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) URherenow  02/28/12 03:55 AM
. * Re: I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) krick  02/28/12 04:40 AM
. * Re: I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) URherenow  02/28/12 01:44 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 11:37 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/27/12 09:59 PM
. * #wilw *nt* StilettoAdministrator  02/28/12 07:37 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/27/12 09:23 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 09:40 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/28/12 08:36 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/28/12 09:06 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 10:32 PM
. * Well DUH! Hizzout  02/27/12 08:27 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 06:05 PM
. * Obvious toll is trolling [NT] Hizzout  02/27/12 01:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Pi  02/27/12 12:53 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/26/12 11:19 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 04:48 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/27/12 05:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 06:46 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 05:16 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/26/12 11:09 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 05:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/27/12 02:40 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 06:27 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 05:59 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 06:39 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 06:02 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Darth Mario  02/28/12 01:56 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 08:57 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 04:22 PM

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