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Re: Why I don't care for American politicians...
03/01/12 01:28 AM



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Taking the Holocaust as an example from his site, the only thing Christianity had to do with it was sitting by and doing nothing in most cases while it happened.




You're right...



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Spoken as someone who has never read the book of Acts in the Bible.



You'd be wrong there. I was born and raised Mormon. I had to not only read the Bible (King James version), cover to cover (something I've found most Christians don't do) numerous times in church (as well as 5am seminary classes each weekday throughout high school) I had to also read the Book of Mormon, and Pearl of Great Price, two more "holy" books that were supposedly "inspired" by god's word.


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Being filled with the Holy Spirit as the Bible talks about is an experience not soon forgotten in anyone who is truly a Christian. You are forgiven for not understanding this and how He works in people's lives as you really can't understand until it happens to you.




Using your "true Christian" argument a.k.a. "No true Scotsman" is ridiculous. I felt what was called the holy spirit many times up until I was a teenager and was pressured to go on a "mission" meaning going all over the world to spread the message of god. Most of my childhood friends had already left for their mission but I did something different than they did....I studied. If I was going to make a commitment to go and spread what I believed what the truth was, I wanted to make sure I KNEW it was the truth. In studying I found the lies, cover ups, hypocrisy and immoral things about my own religion at the time, as well as with Christianity (yes, the Mormons consider themselves Christians, even if other religions don't think so) entirely.

I came to the conclusion that I couldn't be a part of an organization (I'm talking about the Mormon's here...) who practiced polygamy in it's early days (All Mormon's with the exception of the fundamentalists discredit and abhor polygamy today), practiced all-out racism by not letting members of "color" hold any kind of position in the church, (god said "they weren't ready yet") who looked at women as inferior and subservient to their husbands (still do), and who are intolerant of homosexuals.

In digging up the skeletons on my own religion at the time, I also discovered the history of the Christian, namely Catholic religions as well. Long story short, I couldn't be a part of an organization that has EVER acted in such inhumane and evil ways and consider it holy or pure anymore. The Catholic, Mormon, Islam, and most other mainstream religions wouldn't have the followings they do, in the locations of the world that they do without spreading their beliefs through fear, violence, murder and torture. The evidence is all there of religion's dirty past.

Sure you can pick out the good and warm parts of your holy books and claim that religion is about peace and love, but cozying right up next to those good verses are verses of violence, intolerance, damnation, guilt and shame.

The god of the old testament was a jealous, spiteful, murderous god because he was actually Yahweh, a tribal god of war....one of 3 gods that were worshiped at the time before the religion became monotheistic. the god of the new testament became more kind and loving and gentle because many pagan beliefs and rituals were included so that more of the local people who were pagan would come to the church.

I won't go into more history....you could study it for yourself if your religion would actually let you instead of telling you to fall back on faith.







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* Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard 02/26/12 09:57 PM
. * I remember when. I remember when I lost my mind Hizzout  02/28/12 05:51 PM
. * Short answer, "Because I'm an American." _nt_ aavada  02/27/12 09:31 PM
. * Christbait/Trollbait Gyrovision  02/27/12 06:50 PM
. * HE WAS CHRISTERBATING HE WAS CHRISTERBATING SmitdoggAdministrator  02/27/12 09:35 PM
. * So it has come to this... _nt_ aavada  02/28/12 03:36 AM
. * Re: We've run out of cat food? (nt) TriggerFin  02/28/12 04:59 AM
. * Ain't life grand...<nt> italieAdministrator  02/28/12 04:23 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/27/12 06:41 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:47 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/28/12 03:11 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/28/12 08:51 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/28/12 08:49 AM
. * And what of this Xenu chap I read about in Dianetics? <nT> italieAdministrator  02/28/12 08:40 AM
. * Yay! Another sheep! URherenow  02/27/12 12:15 PM
. * Never go full jebus... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 05:50 AM
. * Re: Never go full jebus... GatinhoModerator  02/28/12 04:14 PM
. * Re: Never go full jebus...go full "Monty" instead... gregf  02/27/12 09:48 AM
. * LOFL Darth Mario  02/27/12 02:00 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 01:50 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/27/12 01:31 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 02:29 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/27/12 05:08 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 04:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/27/12 05:05 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 05:14 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 05:59 AM
. * this one is still my favorite... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 05:58 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 04:19 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 05:54 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 10:07 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:24 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 09:30 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 11:42 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 09:43 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 10:18 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 06:31 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 07:58 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 08:09 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 06:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/28/12 08:58 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:11 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 08:32 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 07:28 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 08:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Sune  02/28/12 10:37 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/29/12 01:52 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 04:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/29/12 07:36 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 09:09 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/29/12 11:56 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 12:13 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/29/12 06:19 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  03/01/12 04:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 05:38 AM
. * and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/01/12 01:46 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred Bekki Doll  03/01/12 04:49 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/01/12 05:37 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred Bekki Doll  03/01/12 07:28 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred italieAdministrator  03/02/12 05:46 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 06:13 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 04:39 AM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred hmmmmmm  03/01/12 06:36 PM
. * Re: and this post is where you lose your street cred URherenow  03/02/12 04:48 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/29/12 07:29 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/29/12 05:02 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  03/01/12 01:03 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  03/01/12 12:32 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  03/01/12 01:28 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  03/01/12 05:38 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  03/01/12 05:20 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... StilettoAdministrator  03/01/12 03:35 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... StilettoAdministrator  02/29/12 06:10 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/29/12 06:38 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 08:09 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 08:13 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 08:18 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 08:39 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 09:41 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 09:50 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 01:39 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/28/12 04:57 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/28/12 08:30 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Qun Mang  02/28/12 07:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 08:50 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/28/12 07:08 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... krick  02/28/12 05:21 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 11:16 PM
. * I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) URherenow  02/28/12 03:55 AM
. * Re: I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) krick  02/28/12 04:40 AM
. * Re: I can vouch for Catholic teachings (not doings LOL) URherenow  02/28/12 01:44 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 11:37 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Robbbert  02/27/12 09:59 PM
. * #wilw *nt* StilettoAdministrator  02/28/12 07:37 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... BIOS-D  02/27/12 09:23 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 09:40 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/28/12 08:36 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/28/12 09:06 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Hizzout  02/27/12 10:32 PM
. * Well DUH! Hizzout  02/27/12 08:27 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 06:05 PM
. * Obvious toll is trolling [NT] Hizzout  02/27/12 01:43 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Pi  02/27/12 12:53 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/26/12 11:19 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 04:48 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... mesk  02/27/12 05:01 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... italieAdministrator  02/27/12 06:46 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Gor  02/27/12 05:16 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/26/12 11:09 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 05:54 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... URherenow  02/27/12 02:40 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 06:27 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 05:59 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 06:39 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... greybeard  02/27/12 06:02 PM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Darth Mario  02/28/12 01:56 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Tomu Breidah  02/27/12 08:57 AM
. * Re: Why I don't care for American politicians... Bekki Doll  02/27/12 04:22 PM

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