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Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed
05/15/12 12:57 PM



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Seriously, I don't understand why you're getting upset over a simple question



I'm not getting upset. I'm never the first one in a conversation to curse or insult somebody. I always am respectful to others until they show disrespect to me. So you have to realize that after listening to so many followers, cowards, butt kissers, rude, know-it-all members of this forum that jump down the throat of anyone (besides their master- aka staff or some senior members) that asks a question or have a different opinion, it just gets pathetic after awhile. That some people can be that much of a coward and follower instead of being a leader. I mean c'mon, I'm dealing with people who think Threaded Mode is better than Flat Mode. (No, please let's not get into that discussion again). It just sucks that every thread turns into an argument. That some people have such low and negative points of view towards others. But there are some people on this forum who are good people.

Back on topic...The fact that there is a bunch of people on this forum that know damn well that Bsnes, Nestopia/FCEUX, and Kega Fusion is hands down better than MESS but they refuse to speak up is just so sad. The whole emulation community knows it to be true. It's not even a debate.


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So far, all you've said is "they're more compatible." So for example, what games can the others play that MESS can't?



You'll have to ask a MESS dev. for a MESS list of supported NES mappers and unsupported SNES & Genesis games. You can google Nestopia's supported mappers. Nestopia supports the most mappers out of any NES emulator. It can play basically every released game along with the most homebrews/pirates.

Bsnes can play every single SNES game. Therefore it is obviously more compatible than MESS.

As you know and admitted already, Kega Fusion has better 32X and Sega CD than MESS. It also has 100% or almost 100% compatibility for Genesis/MegaDrive, Sega Master System, and Sega Game Gear.

So, all three emulators have 100% compatibility or nearly 100% compatibility. MESS is far from that number.


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In what way are they more accurate? At least two of the emulators you mentioned are closed-source, so the only way to measure accuracy would be side-by-side tests compared to a real system.



I would suggest you visit nesdev and they will tell you that Nintendulator is the most accurate emulator followed by Nestopia or Mednafen. Both are a close second. I'm not going to take the time to show you a side by side comparison. If you wish, you can do that yourself. And Bsnes is obviously the most accurate SNES emulator.


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I'm not knowledgeable enough; that's why I asked in the first place. But like I said earlier, I'm not interested in the eye candy anyway, so we can just skip this one.



Those emulators take the cake in this category as well. They have overwhelmingly more features, options, eye candy, video filters, etc.


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Bug reports? Real world examples? Where is it documented that these emulators have fewer bugs and glitches. What games are affected. Have these glitches proven to not exist in real hardware?



You will have to play all various games in MESS to see this. Particulary obscure games (considering they even run in MESS). Of course all/most of the classic games are going to work fine in MESS. It's the other games, obscure games, unpopular games, and hardware advanced games (special games) that you might encounter bugs and glitches in MESS. I guess you can find some of those bugs and glitches in the MESS bug report documentation.



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All the emulators I mentioned are better equipped and easier to do TAS video stuff such as recording gamplay videos, etc.

Skip again.



You say skip, but to alot of others it's very important.


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Almost all the emulators I mentioned are better and easier to hack cheat codes

Don't need to cheat, so skip again.



You say skip, but this also is a huge plus and very important to people.

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All you have to do is experience it yourself. It's quite obvious. And you can also search the internet and read what emulator authors say, devs, and the whole emulation community. I've spent enough time on this discussion. I wasted half the night talking about something so obvious that it wasn't even worth talking about.

Conclusion: "MESS is good but for the spoken systems, the other emulators mentioned are better. But please use MESS sometimes too because it helps with it's progress." That's all that had to be said to avoid this long, pointless discussion.









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* Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Firehawke 05/13/12 05:07 AM
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. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed XtraSmiley  05/13/12 05:33 PM
. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Firehawke  05/14/12 12:21 AM
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. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Vas Crabb  05/15/12 01:08 PM
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. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed OldSchoolGamer  05/15/12 10:38 AM
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. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Mr. DoAdministrator  05/15/12 11:51 AM
. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed OldSchoolGamer  05/15/12 12:57 PM
. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Mr. DoAdministrator  05/15/12 01:34 PM
. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed Firehawke  05/14/12 11:48 PM
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. * Re: Probably a good time to see how far MESS has progressed B2K24  05/14/12 07:59 AM
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