MAMEWorld Central >> EmuChat
View all threads Index   Flat Mode Flat  

NLS
Computing Nostalgia Adict
Reged: 10/28/03
Posts: 76
Loc: GREECE
Send PM
Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator
05/24/12 12:14 AM


> > The point is if merging is any good.
>
> Which is actually my major point about UME. I've seen the discussion at Haze's blog
> where you and he browbeat etabeta into a pulp for suggesting there is any redeeming
> value to any of the MESS drivers. So I don't understand why you wish to force more
> people to use drivers you personally feel are sub-standard. (They aren't all, by the
> way, but I want people to have that choice and not just be forced into a
> one-UME-fits-all world).
>
> Furthermore, Haze says the merger is to get the MESS people to work on MAME. So you
> want the creators of drivers you personally would never touch to work on a project
> where users generally agree the drivers are good?

Both MAME and MESS have some great and some not so good drivers. That doesn't shadow the project(s), I said that before. The whole monster (I say this in a good way) that MAME-MESS project is, is something to display in a technology museum. Of course some drivers will suck more or less. It is an active project ain't it? The not-so-good drivers can only get better. Being there "rubbed in the face" of the users (and devs), might actually help towards that end.

Also I don't believe bringing MESS inside MAME will... make MAME worse. Also I don't tag MESS devs as bad (on the contrary) and MAME devs as good. Some are working in both (sub)projects anyway. To me as a user, emulating a coin-op has less "intricacies" than emulating a computer where thousands pieces of software by thousands of programmers over the years the system was active (and up to today for some systems), exploit every tiny hidden bit of its hardware. This makes for example C64 driver worse than VICE x64. Still this doesn't render C64 driver bad - just that it has way to go.

If UME exists or not, if MESS becomes what UME is now or not, if MESS keeps its separate (?) way or not, doesn't affect if I (or others) will still use WinVICE or WinUAE. I don't see the issue.


---
NLS







Entire thread
Subject Posted by Posted on
* UME - Unified Machine Emulator R.Coltrane 05/22/12 08:39 PM
. * Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. italieAdministrator  05/24/12 07:05 AM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 07:25 AM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. italieAdministrator  05/24/12 07:53 AM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 07:55 AM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. TafoidAdministrator  05/24/12 03:29 PM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. Mr. DoAdministrator  05/24/12 04:51 PM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. TafoidAdministrator  05/24/12 04:53 PM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. Robbbert  05/24/12 04:10 PM
. * Re: Why exactly did this get moved? <nT> It's making the bin smell. Firehawke  05/24/12 05:15 PM
. * There will be blood spilled tonight! italieAdministrator  05/24/12 08:14 AM
. * Cold spilla SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 08:15 AM
. * Re: Cold spilla R.Coltrane  05/24/12 03:05 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Gor  05/24/12 02:03 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator mesk  05/23/12 09:29 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator TafoidAdministrator  05/23/12 09:57 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator mesk  05/23/12 10:46 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 10:49 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator mesk  05/23/12 10:53 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:08 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator etabeta  05/23/12 10:23 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 10:48 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator etabeta  05/23/12 11:29 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:35 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 07:29 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/24/12 08:39 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 08:42 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator TriggerFin  05/24/12 07:59 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator R. Belmont  05/23/12 10:56 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:19 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 11:25 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:33 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator SmitdoggAdministrator  05/24/12 07:58 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator R. Belmont  05/23/12 09:54 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator CTOJAH  05/23/12 12:43 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 03:11 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator CTOJAH  05/23/12 04:31 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 08:13 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Firehawke  05/23/12 03:26 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator R. Belmont  05/23/12 04:50 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 08:14 PM
. * No blame. You earn your status. mogli  05/23/12 08:49 PM
. * so he's now dubbed... Death Eater #1? StilettoAdministrator  05/23/12 05:41 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 04:19 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 12:04 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 03:09 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 05:53 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 08:21 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 11:18 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:20 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 11:29 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator etabeta  05/23/12 10:21 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 10:43 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator etabeta  05/23/12 11:21 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:24 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Anonymous  05/23/12 11:31 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:43 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator CTOJAH  05/23/12 11:56 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/24/12 12:17 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator B2K24  05/24/12 05:41 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/24/12 06:49 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator R. Belmont  05/23/12 11:56 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/24/12 12:14 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator TafoidAdministrator  05/23/12 08:40 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 10:12 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Vas Crabb  05/23/12 02:06 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Kitsune Sniper  05/23/12 04:08 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator aavada  05/24/12 08:03 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator Matty_  05/23/12 04:24 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator NLS  05/23/12 11:01 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator JacKc  05/23/12 01:47 AM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator joey35car  05/22/12 11:41 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator ReadOnly  05/22/12 10:54 PM
. * I kinda like the existing logo DrArcade  05/22/12 09:01 PM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo kevenz  05/23/12 03:03 AM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo DrArcade  05/23/12 03:10 PM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo joey35car  05/23/12 04:10 AM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo R. Belmont  05/22/12 09:03 PM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo DrArcade  05/22/12 09:39 PM
. * Re: I kinda like the existing logo R. Belmont  05/23/12 12:41 AM
. * I didn't notice....but Arby's probly right..... Just a little touch up. (nt) mogli  05/22/12 10:58 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator R. Belmont  05/22/12 09:00 PM
. * Re: UME - Unified Machine Emulator DrArcade  05/22/12 09:02 PM
. * LOL *nt* StilettoAdministrator  05/22/12 09:13 PM

Extra information Permissions
Moderator:  redk9258, URherenow, Tafoid 
1 registered and 41 anonymous users are browsing this forum.
You cannot start new topics
You cannot reply to topics
HTML is enabled
UBBCode is enabled
Thread views: 7667