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Re: Mame 162 -listxml
05/31/15 07:07 PM


> > I dont see MESS in a state, where this whole process is reasonable.
>
> What state is that, in particular?

Well, we had that discussion a long time ago and IMHO MESS is not in a good state for many systems, i.e. including Vectrex, Amiga,C64, SNES (i know BSNES is not fluent enough ) etc. etc.

And this discussion will be pointless, because one thing, doesnt have to do with the other thing. If you really think MESS will get more attention now, you are wrong IMHO. People will have to deal with some kinda heartless MAME+MESS marriage. End users will deal with frontends, that leave them with bugs in their game-lists and developers need to do extra work just to get this all working. So at least, it will be a very bad start for this consolidation and will not make people happy from the beginning. In my case, it will just make me more hating this messy MESS thing and not the opposite.

How you did to expect more acceptance under the users, especially doing this in that manner, is really questionable? Where do you see the advantage here? It is not something, that works right out of the box and in no way rock solid or well conceived.


> ...or enjoy the work many others have put into helping MAME emulate tons of other
> systems as good as or better than any other emu, which up until now has been all but
> hidden from so many. Beyond that, it's a historically-significant piece of work and
> to deny people a "window" to that history would be a disservice and a shame.
>
> I would expect/hope that for every FE going in the direction of Emu Loader in
> short-term denial, we'll see two more adding full support for all MAME features
> including softwarelists. I would think a systemtype tag would help in the long run
> anyway - once people start understanding "wow, I can get Genesis too?" they won't
> want it any other way, so efforts to FE around them won't have much of an impact.

man, what kind of dreams do you dream here? no frontend has ever denied someone of using MESS... period.
Emu Loader, QMC2, bla bla.. i give a fuck.
Should i list here all frontends that doesnt work that way?

Same goes for the systems emulated... i will never use Vectrex, Amiga, C64 SNES with MESS, as there are better emulators, even cycle-accurate.

your "wow, I can get Genesis too?" exists allready in some frontends, so this is not some new holy grail found here and guess what, it took the developers a lot of time and work, to have that feature, which now becomes a little useless, until it can work again like it was once.

All in all, i dont see a single good argument, for this step. This is off course just my opinion, but I will not scream "hurray" here.

Edited by uman (05/31/15 07:29 PM)







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* Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix 05/27/15 05:19 PM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/27/15 06:11 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Master O  05/31/15 10:35 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Robbbert  06/01/15 12:49 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/27/15 08:17 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/30/15 06:57 PM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/30/15 07:35 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  05/30/15 08:08 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/30/15 07:56 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/30/15 09:31 PM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/31/15 01:44 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 12:59 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  05/31/15 05:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 07:07 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  06/01/15 01:18 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  06/02/15 12:16 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  06/03/15 02:39 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  06/02/15 05:26 PM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 02:39 AM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  06/02/15 02:33 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 02:53 AM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml B2K24  06/02/15 04:08 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml joey35car  06/02/15 04:45 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 05:04 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 04:17 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 04:31 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 01:07 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml MooglyGuy  06/02/15 08:38 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  05/31/15 05:45 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  05/31/15 12:54 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/31/15 12:14 AM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/30/15 07:52 PM
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. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/27/15 11:24 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix  05/27/15 08:39 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix  05/27/15 07:11 PM
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