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Re: Mame 162 -listxml
06/01/15 01:18 AM


> man, what kind of dreams do you dream here? no frontend has ever denied someone of
> using MESS... period.
> Emu Loader, QMC2, bla bla.. i give a fuck.
> Should i list here all frontends that doesnt work that way?

Excuse me, who do you think you are? Not only are you talking yourself in circles, but you have no idea what you're talking about to begin with.

> Same goes for the systems emulated... i will never use Vectrex, Amiga, C64 SNES with
> MESS, as there are better emulators, even cycle-accurate.

First, there is no better Vectex emulator than what is represented by the MAME driver, so you're wrong (MAME Vectrex overlays could be much better if that's what you mean, but they aren't part of the emulation). On the others you listed I'd agree with you, even documented that agreement - but to say you'll "never" use them is silly; and you are using three convenient examples to try to prove your point when you know there are many other drivers for which MAME has no real equal - and when you know there are some systems *only* emulated by MAME.

Many years ago when there were hundreds of arcade emulators about, people who didn't "get it" had a similar attitude about them vs. MAME, and couldn't see that history wouldn't be kind to any of them given basic common sense. We will see history repeat itself yet again with many non-coinop system emulators and slowly, over time, they will fall into obscurity in light of MAME. I'm glad for that, history is better for that, and I honestly don't care if you disagree with me; you will be wrong in time.

> your "wow, I can get Genesis too?" exists allready in some frontends, so this is not
> some new holy grail found here and guess what, it took the developers a lot of time
> and work, to have that feature, which now becomes a little useless, until it can work
> again like it was once.

In SOME frontends yes, which kindof proves the point I made (and that you basically missed) - namely that MAME's consolidation will lend more visibility to non-coinop systems, full stop. I appreciate a good frontend too, especially excellent ones like QMC2 which more people should be using. However, you seem to act as if MAMEdev need to play second fiddle to the frontend developers and somehow cater to THEM when the reality is the other way around, by definintion: without MAME and MAMEdev, there WOULD be no frontends.

It sounds naive after all these years of bearing witness to this kind of crap, but for all the ungrateful whining going on here I can certainly see why MAMEdev reaction is the way it is.







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* Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix 05/27/15 05:19 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Traso  06/03/15 11:01 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/27/15 06:11 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Master O  05/31/15 10:35 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Robbbert  06/01/15 12:49 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/27/15 08:17 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/30/15 06:57 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  05/30/15 07:25 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/30/15 07:35 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  05/30/15 08:08 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/30/15 07:56 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/30/15 09:31 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/30/15 10:17 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/31/15 01:02 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/31/15 01:44 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 12:59 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  05/31/15 05:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 07:07 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  06/01/15 01:18 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  06/02/15 12:16 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  06/03/15 02:39 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  06/02/15 05:26 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/02/15 07:53 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  06/02/15 08:24 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 02:39 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml etabeta  06/03/15 07:20 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 01:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml etabeta  06/02/15 11:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 02:44 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml etabeta  06/03/15 05:34 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 06:48 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/10/15 01:13 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml etabeta  06/03/15 07:27 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/03/15 07:33 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml etabeta  06/03/15 08:34 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml MooglyGuy  06/02/15 06:15 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/31/15 02:43 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 02:56 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml BIOS-D  06/02/15 05:41 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/30/15 11:58 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  05/31/15 12:45 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/31/15 05:05 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Shoegazr  05/31/15 04:36 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/31/15 02:51 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  06/01/15 01:14 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/01/15 02:32 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/01/15 07:12 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/01/15 07:38 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/01/15 10:01 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/01/15 10:39 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/01/15 11:34 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/01/15 11:48 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/01/15 11:59 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/02/15 12:54 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 12:58 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  06/02/15 01:40 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 02:47 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  06/02/15 05:50 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 09:44 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml B2K24  06/02/15 09:54 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 10:17 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 10:50 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/03/15 06:28 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  06/02/15 12:12 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 12:18 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  06/02/15 01:32 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 01:39 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  06/02/15 05:44 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  06/02/15 02:33 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 02:53 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 03:55 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml B2K24  06/02/15 04:08 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml joey35car  06/02/15 04:45 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 05:04 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 04:17 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  06/02/15 04:31 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml uman  05/31/15 01:07 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml MooglyGuy  06/02/15 08:38 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml R. Belmont  05/31/15 05:45 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  05/31/15 12:54 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml TafoidAdministrator  05/31/15 12:14 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Tom Speirs  05/31/15 01:12 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml CiroConsentino  05/30/15 07:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml AntoPISA  05/28/15 08:57 AM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Vas Crabb  05/28/15 02:52 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Mr Ric  05/27/15 11:24 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix  05/27/15 08:39 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Cyberonix  05/27/15 07:11 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml DamienD  05/27/15 07:11 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Roman  05/27/15 07:58 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml DamienD  05/27/15 08:49 PM
. * Re: Mame 162 -listxml Dullaron  05/27/15 08:16 PM

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