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Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess?
12/03/15 05:59 PM


> > > Might as well get this thread started.
> > >
> > > I hope that the following are emulated:
> > >
> > > Seibu Cup Soccer
> >
> > I think one day it will all fall into place and just click, not sure when tho...
> >
> > > Tobe! Polystars
> >
> > Um.. yeah, me too, the problem is we know there's a much better driver than the one
> > we have, and nobody really wants to step on toes or repeat work.
> >
> > > The music in G-Darius
> >
> > didn't we emulate that LAST year? it might not be 100%, but it's something..
> >
> > >
> > > I'm not holding out much hope for the decapping of Toaplan sound chips, though,
> but
> > > who knows?
> >
> > yeah, I wouldn't hold much hope either, I'd love to close the book on that driver
> > pretty much for good, but I don't think anybody even has the first idea of an
> > approach for them now.
>
> Guru updated his page recently with some decapping news that worth reading. It seems
> that we can hope for something next year in this subject. Of course, if you want a
> particular chip to be decapped/photographed soon, you may have to spend some money
> yourself. Otherwise, have a seat and waaaait.
>

and I'll believe it when I see it, the last thing we need is another over-hyped under delivering scheme, the previous one burned such an unbelievable number of bridges I'm surprised anybody has any confidence in us at all now (there's a fair bit of stuff you haven't seen emulated due to people still being pissed off over that and we really should be offering a deep apology) I would take anything said on Guru's page with a pinch of salt, we're even having to apologise all over the place for his behavior, it's becoming a full time job.

Decapping is not a magic solution, unles the parts are MASK parts it guarantees nothing, even MASK parts can be tricky if they're modern. For anything else you're basically depending on there being a read mechanism, having the right adapter, and being able to locate and disable whatever read protection is in the chip, by no means an easy task. Not all chips have read mechanisms, and some are truly custom so you won't find an adapter to read them.

So far, even with a guy who was considered one of the most knowledgeable in the field, all we got were simple mask rom cases, and chips where the deprotect bits were well documented, even then we got a lot of bad dumps and things that needed to be hand fixed. The guys actually doing the best decap work (but again only covering MASK rom cases where decapping is a viable solution) have mostly been working on decapping stuff for the MESS side of the project, quietly, without any real hype.

> Right now I'm looking for a Jaleco Saint Dragon PCB and a Taito Tokio PCB to buy and
> have both of them dumped and their MCUs decapped. But the big challenge here is to
> find these rare boards!

Tokio should be ok, the Jaleco MCUs I've not heard anything suggesting we can deal with.







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* 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Master O 12/03/15 01:20 AM
. * When will 2015 finally be over? [nt] Heihachi_73  02/02/16 12:17 PM
. * Re: When I lock the thread so Traso doesn't keep bumping it to the top every week [nt] TafoidAdministrator  02/02/16 01:22 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? PooshhMao  01/28/16 06:03 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Traso  02/01/16 07:13 AM
. * Fantasy list Tornadoboy  12/30/15 04:50 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list SmitdoggAdministrator  01/03/16 09:16 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list Antny  01/07/16 04:21 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list gregf  01/07/16 06:52 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Antny  01/07/16 06:57 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list gregf  01/07/16 01:55 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list Traso  01/08/16 09:57 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list Shoegazr  01/09/16 12:04 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Traso  01/17/16 02:21 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Shoegazr  01/17/16 07:53 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Traso  01/22/16 09:55 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Brian Deuel  01/03/16 06:49 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list *another edit* gregf  12/31/15 10:24 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list jonwil  12/30/15 04:21 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list Haze  12/30/15 04:28 PM
. * Raised on the Radio? (nt) Traso  01/02/16 05:23 AM
. * Re: Rise Of The Robots *nt* StilettoAdministrator  01/02/16 07:55 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list CTOJAH  12/30/15 06:51 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list Haze  12/30/15 07:01 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list CTOJAH  12/30/15 07:52 PM
. * Re: Fantasy list R. Belmont  01/04/16 05:42 PM
. * Interesting addition to the Cabal series...... (nt) Traso  01/02/16 05:22 AM
. * Re: Fantasy list Tornadoboy  12/30/15 06:27 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Rychem  12/18/15 04:43 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Haze  12/14/15 10:49 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Hammy  12/15/15 11:27 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Traso  12/16/15 02:36 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Ville Linde  12/15/15 01:42 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  12/15/15 06:07 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? joey35car  12/12/15 07:55 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? gregf  12/12/15 12:58 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Antny  12/14/15 01:39 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  12/14/15 11:39 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Antny  12/15/15 03:50 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? haynor666  12/14/15 06:13 PM
. * Akai Katana and Cave in general Firehawke  12/15/15 12:35 AM
. * Re: Akai Katana and Cave in general haynor666  12/15/15 12:34 PM
. * Re: Akai Katana and Cave in general Firehawke  12/16/15 01:57 AM
. * Re: Akai Katana and Cave in general haynor666  12/16/15 11:45 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Haze  12/14/15 06:44 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Master O  01/07/16 06:28 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Antny  12/15/15 04:07 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? MooglyGuy  12/15/15 06:42 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Master O  12/23/15 06:32 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Antny  12/15/15 10:00 PM
. * I still think Daphne looks great..... Traso  12/16/15 02:27 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? haynor666  12/14/15 08:04 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CTOJAH  12/14/15 07:48 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Haze  12/14/15 08:25 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CTOJAH  12/14/15 10:05 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? MooglyGuy  12/15/15 06:38 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? LensLarque  12/23/15 07:56 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  01/04/16 05:43 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? LensLarque  01/05/16 06:20 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  01/06/16 11:31 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? LensLarque  01/07/16 11:53 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CTOJAH  12/23/15 09:10 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Outrun2006  12/25/15 04:23 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? pepinos  12/09/15 03:01 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CTOJAH  12/09/15 07:11 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? StilettoAdministrator  12/10/15 01:34 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Ville Linde  12/10/15 01:30 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Haze  12/17/15 03:37 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CTOJAH  12/17/15 06:29 PM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  12/09/15 09:21 PM
. * YES - El Semi's Model 2 emu CTOJAH  12/09/15 09:56 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Firehawke  12/08/15 07:19 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Hope For these forums Moose  12/07/15 02:32 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Nightvoice  12/05/15 02:37 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? jonwil  12/06/15 01:06 PM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  12/04/15 06:03 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? krick  01/08/16 01:00 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? StilettoAdministrator  01/08/16 05:38 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  01/08/16 06:23 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? joey35car  12/08/15 05:21 AM
. * Hoping For... Trebor  12/04/15 02:12 AM
. * Mario Bros. (and DK Jr.) walking sound, yes. Traso  12/12/15 12:49 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? gamez fan  12/04/15 02:06 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? vram74  12/03/15 06:10 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Robbbert  12/03/15 08:57 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Robbbert  12/08/15 04:25 AM
. * sheesh....Sandy much? vram74  12/10/15 06:38 AM
. * Dude, relax....don't do it...... Traso  12/12/15 12:41 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Haze  12/03/15 04:15 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? MooglyGuy  12/03/15 01:14 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Master O  12/03/15 05:05 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Envisaged0ne  12/03/15 03:06 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uman  12/03/15 02:48 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? CiroConsentino  12/03/15 06:41 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uman  12/03/15 07:12 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? R. Belmont  12/03/15 11:39 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uman  12/04/15 12:12 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? B2K24  12/04/15 12:46 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Vas Crabb  12/04/15 04:10 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uman  12/04/15 04:48 AM
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. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uman  12/04/15 09:30 PM
. * This seems an illuminating article..... Traso  12/12/15 12:27 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Ziggy100  12/04/15 01:15 PM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? Vas Crabb  12/04/15 01:24 PM
. * Oh please......rude and emphatic are different things. (nt) Traso  12/12/15 12:28 AM
. * Re: 2015 Is Almost Over: What Do You Guys Expect/Hope For in Mame/Mess? uVSthem  12/03/15 02:42 AM
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