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Re: Sadness in the front end world....
09/02/16 07:29 PM


Haze, you are only trying to dodge the core of the subject here, but lets go further.

> There are plenty of things that will work in a cab if you pick and choose from what's
> available tho, and with the lua autoboot features / save states you can set up a good
> number of the non-arcade systems to jump straight into gameplay, at which point even
> plenty of the computer games only require a joystick to operate.

What kind of answer is this to what i have wrote?

Look closely what i wrote: Nearly no 2nd gen. console would make sense in a cab. Anything with analog controllers and shoulder buttons for sure. Nearly no computer (especially how this is solved with currently official MAME) makes sense in a cab. Too many freaked feature stuff in it, not to mention that many drivers are working only partially and with (still) better alternatives to it.

My cab setup, doesnt include any console/computer or to make it short, its ergonomically a pain in the ass (or foot ) to play such games with a cab. I have another setup for such a case, where i indeed use official MAME or better alternative emulators for some cases, or the absolute best of all... the original stuff (nothing can beat this).

save states are for the trashcan, especially when it comes to updates, where you can configure/ make them again. find a solution for this and we are fine.

> There are also a LOT of arcade games you're not going to run on a standard setup,
> arcades were king of using custom controls, it absolutely pains me to see people
> putting things like OutRun on cabs with only a joystick to control them, but at the
> same time arguing that a MegaDrive game has no place there. (and then they end up
> saying that Aladdin is one of their favourite arcade games, even if it's just an
> ugly, broken, buggy hacked up bootleg copy of the MegaDrive game that doesn't run how
> the programmers intended at all)

Well, you cant help dumb people . I am not that kind of hoarder freak and very aware of that problem. I have a wheel that i can hookup on my cab and even then, there are only a few racers left to be properly playable. No trackball or spinner games either. Once i have the space (which is currently limited), other cabs will join. Like a vertical setup or ones that fit such cases. Until then, i am limited to what i have, still a few thousand (incl. clones).

> Most people using a cab aren't going to want a Windows interface anyway, the
> fullscreen interface, if nothing else, is perfect for use with cabinet controls; if
> we did force a Windows style interface it's most likely the group running it on
> cabinets that would scream at us for 'killing MAME' ;-)

No they wont and me neither, but i use UIFX through GameEx. UIFX is way faster/easier for organizing the setup, keeping updated than any official MAME probably will ever be, as it dont need to go through trillions lists, making me watch a whole simpson episode incl. advertising, until i can move the joystick again and back to gaming.

> Again tho, MAME is a project for everybody so it isn't going to be dumbed down /
> limited for specific groups, there are people using it today who have little interest
> in arcades, arcades are nothing special, they're just systems that the end user
> couldn't really configure.

I will explain it with a simple example. Many people like books, still they dont need to have the whole city library at home just to read some of them. You on the other side try to force people to have exactly this scenario and is the reason why we all hated our teachers, trying to teach us a lot of useless crap. If i am interested in a book i dont own, i go to the library and borrow it and if i like it, i buy it. This applies the same for MAME and how the majority of users treat this case. I am not interested in the whole history of books or the whole encyclopedia in my home, but i still would like to see a city library in my city. BÄÄÄÄM

Edited by uman (09/02/16 07:36 PM)







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* Sadness in the front end world.... Traso 09/02/16 12:22 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... DMala  09/02/16 08:03 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Vaughan  09/02/16 10:58 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 04:43 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 11:22 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 03:06 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 06:07 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 07:29 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 07:55 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 09:51 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/03/16 04:14 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 07:28 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/03/16 02:44 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 06:11 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/05/16 01:18 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/05/16 07:42 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 11:00 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/03/16 10:20 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 12:03 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/03/16 09:14 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 07:52 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... *DELETED* Traso  09/04/16 11:51 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Traso  09/04/16 01:25 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mr. DoAdministrator  09/04/16 02:15 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/04/16 07:08 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 07:58 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Traso  09/04/16 12:04 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 08:34 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... CTOJAH  09/04/16 10:35 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/05/16 08:13 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/04/16 12:17 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 04:54 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 06:01 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 12:19 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... MooglyGuy  09/02/16 12:32 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 01:57 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... SmitdoggAdministrator  09/02/16 02:21 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 02:42 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... R. Belmont  09/02/16 04:36 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 04:57 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... MooglyGuy  09/02/16 02:11 PM

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