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Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ?
03/30/17 03:22 PM



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> Except the developer of this particular build never lied about what he did to get it
> running,

I didn't say the author lied to the public. I said putting a hack in the source code is like putting a lie into the source code (simile).

> in every video detailing on how this was done he mentions that it was a
> kludge, pieces of the original ZN2 driver had to be pulled out breaking other games
> etc etc. That's not a lie at all.

You're correct, that isn't a lie. However I didn't call him a liar and additionally I didn't see that when I first watched a video so I think he added it later after the mamedev outcry, though still, nobody to my knowledge ever called him a liar.

> Second of all if this shortcut was already known
> about it certainly wasn't known about to the general public or to the guy who spent 2
> years making this hack so that's a non-starter isn't it?

No my point still stands that is isn't impressive as you said it is. I'm not trying to be a dick and I'm not a programmer so I couldn't do it either way but from an emulation difficulty perspective, if it took him 2 years to do a hack someone else did years ago in a few minutes to an hour, that by definition is not technically impressive.

> The majority of people
> believed it didn't work because the current dump was bad which wasn't true.

A lot of people think dumps are bad when a game doesn't work in mame yes but that just means all those people have a very terrible understanding of mame. I mean all you'd have to do is audit the game to see if it's believed to be a bad dump (right click menu in MAMEUI and other frontends).

> I get
> what you mean in doing things the right way so future developments aren't built on a
> kludge but the point is that people (and I'm including companies in this, since there
> are more than enough retro compilations using high level emulation or even outright
> recompilation of the original code therefore not 'accurate' in the very least) don't
> care about how you get from point A to point B because it's point B they're
> interested in - actually playing the game.

Yeah I'm not saying there is no point in a guy making a separate build with hacks to play 1 game, there is a point, you can play it.







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Subject Posted by Posted on
* MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? uVSthem 03/18/17 06:42 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? R. Belmont  03/31/17 03:09 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Dendy  04/01/17 03:37 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? R. Belmont  04/03/17 05:44 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? SmitdoggAdministrator  03/18/17 06:52 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? MooglyGuy  03/18/17 02:13 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Dendy  03/30/17 02:04 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? SmitdoggAdministrator  03/30/17 03:21 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Dendy  03/30/17 11:22 AM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? SmitdoggAdministrator  03/30/17 03:22 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Dendy  03/31/17 02:01 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Haze  03/31/17 02:47 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? John Doe  03/30/17 12:23 PM
. * Re: MAME4RAGE2 EMULATOR ? Haze  03/18/17 05:38 PM

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