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Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent?
05/19/17 01:43 AM


> > I had no idea there were unprotected non-bootleg clones of certain games
>
> In MAME context "clone" doesn't necessarily mean that somebody "cloned" the game, as
> in for example "bootleg of game x on Galaxian hardware".
>
> Clone sets in MAME are typically earlier revisions of the game code, any
> non-World/non-English versions as well as unprotected or licensed versions and
> versions with more player inputs or even different sets of controls, for example
> Cabal which came in both joystick and trackball controlled versions.

I know all that, keep in mind that I've been following MAME intermittently since 1999 (though I've been away from it for a long time). I simply assumed that if the "parent set" board revision of a game had a protected MCU, all official or officially-licensed board versions would have the same protection, and the only boards that lacked it would be bootlegs that cracked/circumvented those chips. Evidently, this is not the case, and there are some unprotected official clones which lack protection preventing emulation of something in the parent. As with bootlegs, I am trying to learn which games this still applies to, most of the games I remember only running/running reasonably well with the bootleg sets have had emulation implemented for the problem MCUs, some within just the last few versions.

> In some cases there are little differences between regional versions of a game, like
> for example a certain version of Vendetta that hilariously has leather clad men
> forcing themselves upon your character, which aren't present in other versions of the
> game.

Yes, I fully intend to keep regional clone sets like that. I will also try to keep all "official" clones I can to start with, until I can figure out which ones have known variations between the sets/revisions. But I was just trying to figure out which extraneous bootlegs to weed out - ones that are functionally identical to the official versions, just had the title screen changed, or the copyright notice hacked out, or had the sprites hacked with no change to gameplay, or were converted to run on another game's hardware, or have additional glitches or logic differences that make the game "worse."

Sorry if I keep repeating the same things over and over.

Edited by TServo2049 (05/19/17 01:52 AM)







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* Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049 05/17/17 05:59 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? fortuna_chan  05/25/17 04:13 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? gamez fan  05/19/17 09:53 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/21/17 10:49 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/22/17 12:07 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? gamez fan  05/22/17 03:57 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/22/17 12:13 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/22/17 12:21 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs/clones that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/22/17 01:05 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/18/17 05:37 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/19/17 07:50 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Haze  05/18/17 05:39 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/18/17 06:17 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Haze  05/18/17 06:23 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? CTOJAH  05/18/17 07:03 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/18/17 07:33 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/18/17 05:43 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Sune  05/19/17 12:54 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/19/17 01:43 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Haze  05/18/17 04:43 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? gamez fan  05/18/17 04:06 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/18/17 12:30 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/18/17 05:49 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/19/17 05:24 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/19/17 07:47 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/21/17 12:18 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? TServo2049  05/21/17 01:24 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? uVSthem  05/21/17 10:37 PM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? grog  05/18/17 02:38 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Sthiryu  05/18/17 01:27 AM
. * Re: Bootlegs that are still more "playable" than parent? Diet Go Go Fan  05/17/17 11:24 PM

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