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Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset?
08/01/17 06:33 AM


> > > Apparently 'Ali Baba and 40 Thieves' which claims to be a 1982 Sega game is full
> of
> > > code lifted straight from Pacman with various hacks applied.
> > >
> > > I haven't verified that myself, but, you know...
> > >
> > > there's still a bit of a mystery surrounding the protection on that one too.
> >
> > True, but by the same token it's not uncommon for bootlegs / hacks to leave in the
> > original manufacturer's copyright notices - and there are a couple of cases where
> > copyright has been deliberately misattributed.
> >
> > WRT Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it was a
> > straight-up hack of Pac-Man with misattributed copyright. In the absence of flyers,
> > etc. to back up its origins and knowing that even PCBs (particularly those from
> > Nintendo and Namco / Midway) were produced with bootleg copyrights on them, it's at
> > least a possibility.
>
> I'd say the same if there wern't home ports of it. Home port don't usually happen for
> random arcade hacks.

Fair point. I actually wasn't aware that there was a home port of Ali Baba; it seemed sufficiently obscure enough that the game was something of an odd candidate for porting from the arcade. Then again, there's Espial, and that made it to a number of home platforms.

> but for your other point, yes, there are a lot of bootleg PCBs that really try to
> look like originals, sometimes the even get sold for silly money as 'prototypes'

True. Another possibility: Ali Baba was developed outside of Sega, licensed or bought in, and had their copyright slapped on it without complete code review (or with, and they decided to turn a blind eye to it). Then again, the hardware (judging from the MAME driver) looks to pretty much be vanilla Pac-Man, so it's not clear to me how someone at Sega could have missed that similarity two years after Pac-Man had had time to flood the market.

Either way, it's an interesting one. I really hope that more info as to its origins crop up some day.







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* Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Reynard 07/30/17 11:08 AM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Vas Crabb  07/30/17 11:18 AM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Brian Deuel  07/31/17 05:33 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Haze  07/31/17 05:37 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? gregf  07/31/17 06:45 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Haze  07/31/17 06:50 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? casm  07/31/17 11:01 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Haze  07/31/17 11:02 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? casm  08/01/17 06:33 AM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Brian Deuel  07/31/17 05:42 PM
. * Re: Why is Super Moon Cresta part of the main game romset? Reynard  07/30/17 12:06 PM

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