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Haze
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Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more
11/11/17 03:28 PM


> > > I don't have a list of important vs unimportant and the only one I know that is
> > > unimportant (1943) is for whatever reason at the top of Brian's want list, so
> don't
> > > expect some categorizing whatever. People can thank their lucky stars for any
> MCUs
> > we
> > > donate to be frank, or do the work themselves.
> >
> > yeah 1943 is the very definition of pointless, [...] and such should be
> > prioritized really [...]
> This is your POV and you might even be right within this view but, excuse me, i think
> sometimes you behave like a "Bull in a China Shop"

Yes, it's my point of view, but it's based on what has happened in the past and based on a strong knowledge of the purpose of each of the protection chips.

Dr. Decap ended up being sent a whole bunch of chips, a lot of them that he did process were utterly pointless for emulation (things like Golden Tee serial number providing chips, absolute waste of time)

A lot of the ones that really needed processing to actually make a difference did not get processed because in the end neither the capacity, nor funding was there to get them all done.

What this did was create a whole bunch of controversy with people who had sent chips thinking they would be processed being left with nothing, while sorting out that mess has taken until very recently; it took a huge effort to actually get everybody happy again. The point where all the 68705s were added was (almost) the final step in that. We were lucky to be able to recover the chips, but even then more money had to be spent on replacing some of them that had been lost to bring about any level of harmony.

In the end, we want to see better emulation, or dumps of chips that are essential if repairing a board because they handle critical tasks. Cases where the protection can be easily simulated, or the code patched on a PCB to not care (or a substitute MCU created that does exactly the same thing) might not be *ideal* but nothing major is in danger of being lost.

The people handling these tasks have limited capacity and are doing things often out of their own pocket, because they want to do them. Neither time (their time, or access to equipment) nor funding is unlimited. I'd say the more reckless behaviour here is overloading such people with things that we can live without.

I said the same things with the previous Decap project, and nobody listened.







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* DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more SmitdoggAdministrator 11/09/17 07:53 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more Haze  11/10/17 06:33 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more SmitdoggAdministrator  11/10/17 06:35 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more Haze  11/10/17 06:37 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more SmitdoggAdministrator  11/10/17 06:40 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more Haze  11/10/17 06:42 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more RdW  11/11/17 01:25 AM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more Haze  11/11/17 03:28 PM
. * Re: DU Fundraiser: Taikyoku Baseball, Battlecry prototype and more Renegade  11/11/17 06:11 PM

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