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definitely material for MAME FAQ section imo
05/14/18 04:45 AM




>> My response was simply stating a FACT that digitising LaserDiscs is unavoidably lossy
>> as they are analog.

>Generational loss is something we can't control, compression loss is something we can
>control.

>Generational loss has a minor impact on the video signal, compression loss has a major
>impact on the video signal.

>Which of the two do you think we should worry the most about?

>We also can't control laser rot, but we can try to preserve as much of the signal as
>possible & keep looking for discs in better shape and try to remaster it.

>> Nope, assuming you agree that the criticism (that I've never agreed with, but
>> whatever) was that it needed to be exact (i.e. lossless) to be in MAME.
>> Even this approach is actually still lossy.

>The previous dumps for MAME were done using loss less compression. The problem was they
>were made with video capture cards, which don't capture all the data on the disc. This
>has made it impossible to emulate some of the games.


from Aaron Giles' site

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In 2008 I extended the CHD format to support laserdiscs, in order to enable MAME to support the handful of laserdisc-based games that came out in the 1980s. During this process I investigated how laserdiscs worked and developed tools to extract the frame metadata that was encoded in the vertical blanking interval.
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It's too bad Aaron's older site isn't around (maybe retained on Archives?) that explained the procedure for capturing data from discs from his wip blog from 2009.

Someone that handles the MAME FAQ section could add material explaining how the laser disc data capture was done in 2009 and what is being done these days and why the current supported laser discs in MAME need to be redone again.

It should (hopefully?) resolve some of the confusion that new users might be wanting to ask.....in case any return later wanting to see what the fuss is about with possibly more laserdisc game support possibly taking place within coming months.







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* DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator 05/12/18 08:39 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/15/18 06:33 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood btribble  05/18/18 04:42 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/18/18 07:44 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Simon Inns  05/15/18 07:10 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JonasP  05/15/18 02:01 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MooglyGuy  05/15/18 04:20 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Simon Inns  05/15/18 04:43 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood swm3rd  05/16/18 09:03 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood R. Belmont  05/16/18 10:39 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood jonwil  05/19/18 02:32 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MooglyGuy  05/19/18 10:29 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Olivier Galibert  05/17/18 11:43 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood happycube  05/18/18 05:19 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/17/18 09:33 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Roberto Fresca  05/17/18 08:46 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood DoomSooth  05/17/18 01:01 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood agard  05/14/18 07:57 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood gregf  05/14/18 08:56 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  05/15/18 12:29 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood gregf  05/15/18 12:35 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood agard  05/15/18 12:15 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood gregf  05/15/18 12:30 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/15/18 03:20 AM
. * Mad Dog McCree! gregf  05/14/18 04:52 AM
. * Re: Mad Dog McCree! gamerfan  05/18/18 04:31 AM
. * Re: Mad Dog McCree! *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/14/18 04:56 AM
. * Re: Mad Dog McCree! Antny  05/14/18 06:07 AM
. * Re: Mad Dog McCree! gregf  05/14/18 05:02 AM
. * Re: Mad Dog McCree! Antny  05/14/18 06:11 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood casm  05/13/18 02:33 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood italiandoh  05/13/18 12:57 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood italiandoh  05/14/18 10:03 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/13/18 05:46 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood italiandoh  05/14/18 10:04 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/15/18 05:09 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/14/18 06:26 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood CTOJAH  05/13/18 11:25 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood taz-nz  05/14/18 11:32 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/14/18 06:15 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Roman  05/14/18 06:21 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/14/18 07:39 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Simon Inns  05/14/18 07:59 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood gregf  05/14/18 09:41 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/15/18 02:38 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Vas Crabb  05/15/18 08:04 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Olivier Galibert  05/15/18 07:21 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/15/18 04:23 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Tornadoboy  05/13/18 03:15 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood CTOJAH  05/13/18 11:15 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  05/14/18 12:28 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood CTOJAH  05/14/18 04:23 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  05/14/18 07:54 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood italiandoh  05/13/18 12:46 PM
. * I'm excited like a fridge MASH  05/13/18 02:47 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Master O  05/13/18 02:37 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood btribble  05/12/18 11:36 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  05/12/18 11:41 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood btribble  05/14/18 06:40 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/12/18 11:35 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MooglyGuy  05/13/18 07:15 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Kitsune Sniper  05/14/18 07:38 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood CiroConsentino  05/12/18 10:09 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood R. Belmont  05/16/18 10:44 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Haze  05/16/18 11:00 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Simon Inns  05/14/18 04:18 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood taz-nz  05/15/18 12:40 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  05/12/18 10:11 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Shoegazr  05/13/18 01:03 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 03:10 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Shoegazr  05/13/18 05:13 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/13/18 03:43 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MooglyGuy  05/13/18 07:08 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MC68K  05/13/18 07:13 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Vas Crabb  05/13/18 07:25 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 04:36 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Vas Crabb  05/13/18 05:55 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood taz-nz  05/14/18 12:39 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/13/18 04:55 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 05:23 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/13/18 05:51 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 08:10 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood John Doe  05/14/18 03:31 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/15/18 02:46 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood taz-nz  05/14/18 01:14 PM
. * definitely material for MAME FAQ section imo gregf  05/14/18 04:45 AM
. * Re: Quick link to Aaron's Laserdisc explanation... Bad A Billy  05/14/18 05:28 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/14/18 02:41 AM

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