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Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara
08/18/17 04:36 PM


> > Out of curiosity, has anyone been putting effort into decrypting the x-in-1 boards?
> > I'm less interested in this from the standpoint of seeing them emulated (which,
> IMHO,
> > is pretty much a 'who cares' sort of thing), but am interested in seeing what the
> > underlying code for both the UI and emulator may be.
>
> 39-in-1 runs (slowly). When it's booting up and listing each game, it's actually
> emulating it until the POST is complete, inserting a coin, and then save-stating it
> to RAM. This is why each game takes a wildly different amount of time for its name to
> be printed during that startup.

OK, that fills in one of the questions I've had regarding those boards' initial POST behaviour and is actually kinda cool. A bit bass-ackwards IMHO - they could have just loaded pre-generated save states from storage into RAM rather than creating them on the fly at each boot - but I guess that doing it that way saved $0.17 per board on the BOM or something

> Then when you pick a game to run it just resumes that save state. It's possible in
> the MAME debugger to skip that step; it starts up immediately but when you pick a
> game it then just POSTs and goes through attract mode

Given the intended application of these boards, it makes sense: with near-instantaneous game switching being desirable, this would certainly be one way of achieving it.

> I strongly believe the emulator is MAME although I haven't tried to decompile it or
> anything, and they did a good job scrubbing it for tell-tale strings (as opposed to
> Konami's PS2 classics series, which has Aaron's name in it and the MAME version
> string). The game selection and the timeframe pretty much guarantees that.

I seem to recall someone mentioning several years ago that there was an in-game giveaway in one of the 39-in-1's games as to the boards' MAME origins. Specifics escape me right now, but I want to say that it was something along the lines of a later-fixed bug specific to MAME's emulation of that particular game being triggered in one of the drivers during gameplay; this at least pegged it to a MAME version less than n.

That said, it's a pretty weak memory. I could be confusing it with something else.







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* Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Foxhack 08/11/17 08:00 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara SmitdoggAdministrator  08/11/17 08:05 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Foxhack  08/11/17 08:16 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara R. Belmont  08/17/17 04:38 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/18/17 02:56 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara SmitdoggAdministrator  08/11/17 08:17 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Foxhack  08/12/17 12:19 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara SmitdoggAdministrator  08/12/17 12:30 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/16/17 04:09 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara TrevEB  08/16/17 04:45 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/17/17 12:59 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara TrevEB  08/17/17 02:00 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Haze  08/16/17 06:16 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara R. Belmont  08/17/17 04:45 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/18/17 03:07 PM
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. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara jonwil  08/17/17 04:24 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/17/17 12:43 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara R. Belmont  08/17/17 04:43 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/18/17 03:17 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara R. Belmont  08/18/17 03:48 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Haze  08/18/17 05:08 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/18/17 04:36 PM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara Haze  08/17/17 12:59 AM
. * Re: Prosecutors: 6 charged with making fake Pac-Man games in Santa Clara casm  08/17/17 01:15 AM

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