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Konami Time Keeper Problems
#241339 - 12/16/10 04:26 PM


I have some Racing Jam boards I need to fix and they all have the timekeeper problem.

I hear they can be resurrected with a new EPROM but apparently the only one available is the Jap ROM which is a problem since these are Euro boards and the Jap version of the game has a different shifter and a clutch making manual mode unplayable.

I will have access to a working Euro board soon, can I dump the ROM from that and burn a new one for these dead boards?

Also, does GT Club suicide at all? I have a dead one here too but no info on it seems to really exist online..

Lastly have a Fighting Mania that says it has a card error.. does there exist a boot cd that I can reinitialize the flash with?

*phew* Thanks for any help you can give me!



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Re: Konami Time Keeper Problems new [Re: RetroRepair]
#241441 - 12/17/10 05:39 PM


> I will have access to a working Euro board soon, can I dump the ROM from that and
> burn a new one for these dead boards?

You need to get a new Timekeeper (or hack in a replacement battery for the dead ones) and program it with the data from the working board.

> Also, does GT Club suicide at all? I have a dead one here too but no info on it seems
> to really exist online..

Guru indicates it's self-repairing if the Timekeeper is replaced. So if yours is dead it may have something else wrong with it.

> Lastly have a Fighting Mania that says it has a card error.. does there exist a boot
> cd that I can reinitialize the flash with?

At least for the version we have dumped, Fighting Mania can re-initialize itself if you flip the appropriate DIP switch to boot from CD instead of flash. (ie, there is no separate boot CD, the gameplay CD also can do the setup).



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Re: Konami Time Keeper Problems new [Re: R. Belmont]
#241447 - 12/17/10 07:11 PM



> You need to get a new Timekeeper (or hack in a replacement battery for the dead ones)
> and program it with the data from the working board.

Ah good news. Could MAME benefit from this?

> Guru indicates it's self-repairing if the Timekeeper is replaced. So if yours is dead
> it may have something else wrong with it.

I had a feeling that was the case else I'd have likely found something about it in my searches. Thanks.

> At least for the version we have dumped, Fighting Mania can re-initialize itself if
> you flip the appropriate DIP switch to boot from CD instead of flash. (ie, there is
> no separate boot CD, the gameplay CD also can do the setup).

See this is where this one is different, it has no CD (at least not for normal operation) just a PCMCIA flash card. I'm not sure if the card is at fault or the onboard flash roms. I also have no idea if it came with a CD for initialization. I tried burning the CHD from MAME (after converting it using chdman) but the drive doesn't seem to like CD-Rs...



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Re: Konami Time Keeper Problems new [Re: RetroRepair]
#241461 - 12/17/10 09:43 PM


> > You need to get a new Timekeeper (or hack in a replacement battery for the dead
> ones)
> > and program it with the data from the working board.
>
> Ah good news. Could MAME benefit from this?

I don't know what region the MAME set is off the top of my head, but assuming it's not Euro then we could definitely use the Euro program ROMs and TK data.

> See this is where this one is different, it has no CD (at least not for normal
> operation) just a PCMCIA flash card. I'm not sure if the card is at fault or the
> onboard flash roms. I also have no idea if it came with a CD for initialization. I
> tried burning the CHD from MAME (after converting it using chdman) but the drive
> doesn't seem to like CD-Rs...

Yeah, the stock Sony drive shipped with 573s is definitely not friendly to burns. I was able to use a DVD-ROM drive I had around to get one of my 573 boards to boot CD-Rs. The 573 itself isn't very picky about the drive, you just gotta jumper it to master or whatever to match the original.



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Re: Konami Time Keeper Problems new [Re: R. Belmont]
#241473 - 12/17/10 10:43 PM


Didn't the KSys 573 use an IDE Drive? Even so, I can understand, all CD drives are just SCSI over IDE



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Re: Konami Time Keeper Problems new [Re: Naoki]
#241477 - 12/17/10 11:26 PM


> Didn't the KSys 573 use an IDE Drive? Even so, I can understand, all CD drives are
> just SCSI over IDE

Correct, "IDE" and "SATA" optical drives actually end up speaking SCSI protocol.


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