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Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone
#292881 - 07/30/12 07:05 PM Attachment: battlezone CAX.jpg 110 KB (0 downloads)


I posted this first at KLOV.
It is a little known bug in the original code.
Doesn't appear to have ever been talked about here, so let me be the first.

Back in 1981 I was playing BattleZone at Bagatelle at the Rye Town Hilton, Rye, NY.

The game started as usual but then I got a blitz with wave after wave of missiles and saucers, no tanks.

The game ended after a couple minutes. Definitely longer than normal but not by much.

I had 2,600,000 points.

I called over the attendant, got a high score card, got my 10 free game tokens a week later.
It was ultra cool, but it definitely was a mistake.

It happened again Saturday night at CAX 2012.

Right from the beginning I got nailed with Missiles.
I thought maybe I was finishing someone else's games.

Definitely not the case.

Fortunately I took a photo, but I was tired and sloppy about putting in my initials. TAA instead of TEB

In less than 30 seconds, I scored the 6th highest score of all time.
8,407,000

Has anyone else ever witnessed the BattleZone crazy score bug?

After finding some information, I think the bug can be recreated by playing a really BAD game. Like no score.
Then perhaps hitting a tank and being destroyed at the same time.
On your last tank, the score shoots up to many millions, and the game then proceeds to nail you with appropriate fire power in relation to the score.

I was spending more time looking around at the scenery then engaging the tanks.
I was also trying to scoot around them, coming up from the rear.

Also, I discovered my game play is so bad, I've never seen a super tank before.
There is a youtube video that is remarkable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrYkbEbnEQ

Definitely have to put in some more time on Battlezone in Mame. See if I can track this bug down.

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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#292888 - 07/30/12 08:58 PM


That's pretty awesome. I've never gotten that error in four years of playing on my BZ cab. I also get wasp missiles long before they did on that video (I think mine is set for 5,000)... do you know the dip settings on the machine when you get that error?

The attached video is also very enlightening. The sound is way different from my cab... my engine rumble is awesomely deep and reverberates in your chest like a subwoofer or a Harley does... maybe it's just recording artifact, or a speaker quality issue between the actual cab and my computer watching that vid.

Motivates me to play some tonight!

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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: GatKong]
#292894 - 07/30/12 10:40 PM


No idea. I would guess standard default settings.

This restoration site noted the bug.
http://www.biltronix.com/battlezone.html

The bug is noted on Wikipedia as well, but not understood at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlezone_%281980_video_game%29

I wish I hadn't been so impatient to get my initials in.
I walked away from the game, and then was like, whoa wait a minute. Lighting just struck twice.

This was the Periscope cabinet version.

I'll see if I can get the settings.
Probably a Ken/TJ machine.



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"Paging Doctor Hodges, Doctor Hodges, please report to the ER..." *nt* new [Re: TrevEB]
#292898 - 07/30/12 11:45 PM


> I posted this first at KLOV.
> It is a little known bug in the original code.
> Doesn't appear to have ever been talked about here, so let me be the first.
>
> Back in 1981 I was playing BattleZone at Bagatelle at the Rye Town Hilton, Rye, NY.
>
> The game started as usual but then I got a blitz with wave after wave of missiles and
> saucers, no tanks.
>
> The game ended after a couple minutes. Definitely longer than normal but not by much.
>
> I had 2,600,000 points.
>
> I called over the attendant, got a high score card, got my 10 free game tokens a week
> later.
> It was ultra cool, but it definitely was a mistake.
>
> It happened again Saturday night at CAX 2012.
>
> Right from the beginning I got nailed with Missiles.
> I thought maybe I was finishing someone else's games.
>
> Definitely not the case.
>
> Fortunately I took a photo, but I was tired and sloppy about putting in my initials.
> TAA instead of TEB
>
> In less than 30 seconds, I scored the 6th highest score of all time.
> 8,407,000
>
> Has anyone else ever witnessed the BattleZone crazy score bug?
>
> After finding some information, I think the bug can be recreated by playing a really
> BAD game. Like no score.
> Then perhaps hitting a tank and being destroyed at the same time.
> On your last tank, the score shoots up to many millions, and the game then proceeds
> to nail you with appropriate fire power in relation to the score.
>
> I was spending more time looking around at the scenery then engaging the tanks.
> I was also trying to scoot around them, coming up from the rear.
>
> Also, I discovered my game play is so bad, I've never seen a super tank before.
> There is a youtube video that is remarkable.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrYkbEbnEQ
>
> Definitely have to put in some more time on Battlezone in Mame. See if I can track
> this bug down.



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#292927 - 07/31/12 12:30 PM


> Fortunately I took a photo, but I was tired and sloppy about putting in my initials.
> TAA instead of TEB
>
> In less than 30 seconds, I scored the 6th highest score of all time.
> 8,407,000

Ahh, so that was you that got that score. I played the same machine at CAX'12 but no supernatural scoring happenings occurred. As Stiletto hints, this is probably a job for Don Hodges.



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#292929 - 07/31/12 01:57 PM


That happens... check out the last paragraph of this article:

http://www.biltronix.com/battlezone.html

Personally, I've never seen this bug. And I've played it for 30 years.

PS: That gameplay video you linked is mine. Thanks for the compliments man. Not a great score but it shows the tactics... I scored almost 400K on the AAE emulator but the ZD recorder didn't work with it.

The only things that regularly kill me are the type of missiles that turn sideways just before they hit you. They're rare... like 1 out of 10 missiles come that way... I never figured them out... if you can, you can score millions in the game in "legal" way as well.

Cheers!



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Atari Gravitar fully completed
Atari Star Wars Longplay
Atari Battle Zone Longplay
Atari Space Duel Longplay



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#292934 - 07/31/12 03:28 PM


Getting a little closer.

Dennis Towne and Dale Luck brought the two Periscope Battlezone cabinets.

Updated score.
*8,407,000
My ill gotten points gets an asterisk

Also note, I should have had rows of tanks after my score for each 100,000 points.
More code bug

email sent to Mr Hodges.



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#292936 - 07/31/12 03:42 PM


> Getting a little closer.
>
> Dennis Towne and Dale Luck brought the two Periscope Battlezone cabinets.
>
> Updated score.
> *8,407,000
> My ill gotten points gets an asterisk
>
> Also note, I should have had rows of tanks after my score for each 100,000 points.
> More code bug
>
> email sent to Mr Hodges.

Ah, shit - missed that last line. PM also sent to Mr. Hodges (known as "Phantom DJ" on these forums).

This seems tied into this old thread at Twin Galaxies:
http://forums.twingalaxies.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26364
100 Million with glitches.... hm.

- Stiletto



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: Stiletto]
#293354 - 08/05/12 08:17 PM


Here's more discussion about it.

http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/forums/index.php?topic=3302.0



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Atari Gravitar fully completed
Atari Star Wars Longplay
Atari Battle Zone Longplay
Atari Space Duel Longplay



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: Kombalar]
#293653 - 08/11/12 05:28 AM


The original poster of that thread is Mark Sellers, who owns a bar called Stella's about five miles from where I live, in Grand Rapids, MI. GREAT classic arcade...



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Re: Scoring Millions in seconds in Upright Arcade BattleZone new [Re: TrevEB]
#293659 - 08/11/12 12:34 PM


Great, now I've got an itch to get that battlezone working I've been sitting on for 5 years...


> I posted this first at KLOV.
> It is a little known bug in the original code.
> Doesn't appear to have ever been talked about here, so let me be the first.
>
> Back in 1981 I was playing BattleZone at Bagatelle at the Rye Town Hilton, Rye, NY.
>
> The game started as usual but then I got a blitz with wave after wave of missiles and
> saucers, no tanks.
>
> The game ended after a couple minutes. Definitely longer than normal but not by much.
>
> I had 2,600,000 points.
>
> I called over the attendant, got a high score card, got my 10 free game tokens a week
> later.
> It was ultra cool, but it definitely was a mistake.
>
> It happened again Saturday night at CAX 2012.
>
> Right from the beginning I got nailed with Missiles.
> I thought maybe I was finishing someone else's games.
>
> Definitely not the case.
>
> Fortunately I took a photo, but I was tired and sloppy about putting in my initials.
> TAA instead of TEB
>
> In less than 30 seconds, I scored the 6th highest score of all time.
> 8,407,000
>
> Has anyone else ever witnessed the BattleZone crazy score bug?
>
> After finding some information, I think the bug can be recreated by playing a really
> BAD game. Like no score.
> Then perhaps hitting a tank and being destroyed at the same time.
> On your last tank, the score shoots up to many millions, and the game then proceeds
> to nail you with appropriate fire power in relation to the score.
>
> I was spending more time looking around at the scenery then engaging the tanks.
> I was also trying to scoot around them, coming up from the rear.
>
> Also, I discovered my game play is so bad, I've never seen a super tank before.
> There is a youtube video that is remarkable.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymrYkbEbnEQ
>
> Definitely have to put in some more time on Battlezone in Mame. See if I can track
> this bug down.


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