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Tomu Breidah
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Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist
08/12/12 05:53 PM


> > > If you are going to argue that the towers were brought down by the government, do
> > NOT
> > > use the excuse "Because it fell in it's own footprint". You sound foolish.
> > >
> > >
> > > //Where the hell else was it supposed to fall. ///strawman
> >
> >
> > What if someone says; "Because it shows the signs of a controlled demolition."
>
> I would ask them to kindly list those "signs" to me, in a calm and rational manner.
>
>



> > I could type out a WHOLE lot more, but I'll save it for later if it should have to
> > come to that.
> >
> > //will be more than one can chew. -hehe
>
> Please do. I'm all ears. I'm fairly certain I will hear the same drivel I heard
> yesterday about how the fire couldn't have been hot enough, the building came down to
> quick, it was too clean, etc.


Drivel. Okay. Well, if you know the standard "truther" routine then I guess it's up to you to point out how those allegations are incorrect without resorting to childish insults and (other) ad-hominem attacks. You made the topic.


"Truth" be known, what I'll say next is essentially what I originally typed out earlier this morning, but lost it due to closing the wrong tab. So, upon your request.... I promise not to disappoint & Thank you for the opportunity to let me share this.



1) The supposed "pancaking" that occurred. Why didn't we see a consistent pattern in the layers of what should have been the other floors? Not all of the floors were on fire now were they? Yet, strangely enough, there wasn't anything that was recognizable in any place or part of the debris.

2) But I'm sure investigators/scientists would've had time to study the crime scene. Oh wait, the cleanup crew removed everything before scientists could study anything. And if they couldn't investigate on site - then at least at another location. But no. They even shipped most of the steel beams over to some place in China. But I guess just because something is regarded as one of the greatest national tragedies isn't important enough to study and find answers for. Seems kind of strange, don't you agree?

3) The unusually high amount of Put Options that were placed on United and American Airlines before the attacks.

4) Leaseholder Larry Silverstein insuring the buildings for (ha-ha, lots of money) against (other things, as well as) terrorist attacks, then being rewarded double since both buildings were attacked which counted as 2 attacks. How convenient. Also, he didn't show up for work on that day (9-11-01), but I'm sure he's not there most of the time... Right?

5) Both towers needed to be renovated to remove asbestos (a health hazard) which would have cost Mr. Silverstein millions of dollars but was never able to get around to it due to the attacks. Again, how convenient.

6) The inner/central steel columns of the buildings. If the alleged "pancaking" of all the floors broke off from each level along this column - then why didn't they (some or even any) stay intact? Are we to believe that this integral part of the building's support was that weak?

7) ^That's disregarding the fact that the buildings were designed to withstand impacts of large planes.

Quote:


The buildings have been investigated and found to be safe in an assumed collision with a large jet airliner (Boeing 707—DC 8) traveling at 600 miles per hour. Analysis indicates that such collision would result in only local damage which could not cause collapse or substantial damage to the building and would not endanger the lives and safety of occupants not in the immediate area of impact.




"600 mph". The 2 planes were said to have been traveling at 466 mph (when Flight 11 hits the North Tower) and 590 mph (when Flight 175 hits the South Tower).

8) The Squibs. The plumes of smoke being forced out of windows of floors well below the collapsing parts of the building above said 'squibs'. You could say that these windows were already knocked out by people jumping. But, again, not all floors were on fire, so why would windows be missing many floors below the impact area/s? Is air pressure "escaping from the elevator shafts" really that powerful to knock out a window? There isn't any other place this surge of air can go to? And why so much debris/dust/smoke? Was all that stuff already in those spaces?

9) No military planes were available to intercept the planes that lost radio contact and went off course.

10) A good number of experts in the fields of demolition agree that the rate of the buildings falling was at freefall speed. If things (e.g. "floors") were to "pancake" (assuming that was even plausible) it shouldn't have had so much energy. And the pyroplastic clouds are a classic example of explosions. Not to mention the debris that was pushed out/blown away with so much force. This caused damage to surrounding buildings. What would cause so much force as to push out concrete and steel? A mere collapse? Or something with a great deal more horizontal force?

11) Why didn't Bush take action upon hearing the news of the attacks? Even immediate action!? Why wasn't he worried that his location wouldn't be attacked too? His itinerary was (surely) known before the events of 9-11. If terrorists had enough intelligence and (obvious) ingenuity to do some of the other things they miraculously got away with - why wouldn't they target Bush too?

12) A quote from Bush himself; "nobody in our government....could envisage flying air planes into buildings" Really?

13) Lack of plane debris from the alleged Pentagon crash. And if there were (ever actually any recoverable) debris - why wasn't it taken to a hangar to be studied like other plane crashes?

14) An impact zone that isn't consistent with the size and/or shape of a Boeing 757, not to mention the "miraculous" ability of the pilot to crash the plane into the side of the building without so much as leaving any skid marks on the grass, or any damage that would have resulted to the foundation that the planes engines would've hit, etc. etc.

15) Cheney's order to "Stand Down".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlM8Sui6-X0



I could probably list more things that anyone could easily research for themselves, but I'm sure this is enough. I felt it would be easier for someone to explain these away if I separated them. Go for it. Defend the integrity of this wonderful and trustworthy government.


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* For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator 08/12/12 03:21 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist twistyAdministrator  08/14/12 04:04 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Tomu Breidah  08/14/12 03:50 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/15/12 03:16 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Tomu Breidah  08/16/12 12:16 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/16/12 06:04 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Tomu Breidah  08/16/12 01:04 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/16/12 06:36 AM
. * sexiest engine humm on the planet... italieAdministrator  08/16/12 06:55 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Gor  08/15/12 05:00 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/15/12 05:00 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/15/12 05:34 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/15/12 05:41 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/15/12 06:03 AM
. * Nope, not gonna work. italieAdministrator  08/14/12 05:15 AM
. * Re: Nope, not gonna work. Tomu Breidah  08/14/12 03:31 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Matty_  08/14/12 04:22 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Master O  08/12/12 08:49 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Tomu Breidah  08/12/12 10:42 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/12/12 02:19 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Tomu Breidah  08/12/12 05:53 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist lharms  08/12/12 09:33 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Vas Crabb  08/13/12 12:45 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist lharms  08/14/12 12:42 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/12/12 07:44 PM
. * One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/12/12 08:10 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. Tomu Breidah  08/13/12 05:11 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/13/12 06:18 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. Tomu Breidah  08/13/12 08:27 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/13/12 01:51 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. Tomu Breidah  08/13/12 04:37 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/13/12 06:56 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. Tomu Breidah  08/13/12 11:37 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/14/12 02:53 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. Tomu Breidah  08/14/12 03:29 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. italieAdministrator  08/15/12 02:34 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. BIOS-D  08/14/12 10:51 AM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. TriggerFin  08/14/12 03:05 PM
. * Re: One more point, for the record. mesk  08/13/12 07:30 PM
. * Gremlins. *nt* Foxhack  08/13/12 12:03 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/12/12 04:35 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/12/12 05:26 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/12/12 06:06 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist lharms  08/12/12 08:26 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/13/12 04:56 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist lharms  08/14/12 01:22 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/12/12 08:35 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/12/12 07:55 PM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist Hizzout  08/13/12 03:14 AM
. * Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist italieAdministrator  08/13/12 03:39 AM
. * LOL Darth Mario  08/13/12 11:09 PM
. * Re: LOL italieAdministrator  08/14/12 02:31 AM
. * but but but...I read it on the Internet! dfrance  08/12/12 04:33 AM
. * I just read this on the internet too... italieAdministrator  08/12/12 04:34 AM
. * I'm actually a mason so cannot comment on the olypmpic logo... dfrance  08/12/12 04:44 AM
. * Kinda like carving your name into fresh concrete, eh? italieAdministrator  08/12/12 05:13 AM

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