> Picture the late "Macho Man" Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan within a homoerotic > relationship. > > BTW, "professional" wrestling is gay. How could it be not with the oiled bodies and > all that spandex and other S&M regalia? ;-) > > --Bekki
> > Mixed martial arts (MMA/UFC) is just gay porn without taking the clothes off. It > > always degenerates into buff men dry-humping. > > [this is a good one] Yeah, but the chicks seem to get off on it....
Quote: Mixed martial arts (MMA/UFC) is just gay porn without taking the clothes off. It always degenerates into buff men dry-humping.
It's funny. It's a couple consenting adults getting into the octagon, beating the crap out of each other, and the winner gets paid. "Professional" wrestling is like that but with scripts, over-the-top hammy acting and more overt costumes.
It's funny how such overt displays of masculinity make for strange bedfellows. Heh heh heh... ;-)
But the truly gayest people are those who act so offended that they don't realize that by going into extreme detail it's as if they're deep within the closet themselves. It's as if they're inadvertently revealing a kink or fetish that they actually are both infatuated and amazed with. The righteous indignation just devolves into outright ham & cheese and just can't hide that fact because it's so overplayed. And gay. :-)
Here's a clip recently unearthed by "Ass Master" Smitdogg that proves that:
The clip speaks for itself. And it's so gay that my own gaydar spun so fast that I was actually hovering! When you're sharing gay scat porn with others at a meeting via your portable computer then you're gay.
That and how can one not smile when an African person says "poo poo" with that thick accent? It really defeats the entire purpose of that meeting. The only way it could be gayer is if they had an actual clinical presentation featuring live subjects with full penetration.
In any case, when it gets campy I wind up being very entertained by the whole charade. John Waters would be pleased. :-)
> > > Mixed martial arts (MMA/UFC) is just gay porn without taking the clothes off. It > > > always degenerates into buff men dry-humping. > > > > [this is a good one] Yeah, but the chicks seem to get off on it.... > > Chicks also get off on yaoi you know.
Wasn't familiar with that, but essentially it's some form of romance novel. There's a bi new world out there.
> > Chicks also get off on yaoi you know. > > Wasn't familiar with that, but essentially it's some form of romance novel. There's a > bi new world out there.
Romance novel? No, yaoi is cartoon gay porn featuring young-looking characters.
> And you be knowin ahll aboot length, eh? > > Description envy? ;-) > > --Bekki
Actually, apparently I'm so good with my average size dick - so I've heard from females of various height and vaginal depths, who've had large cocks in them - that I have no reason to be envious.
However. I once was envious of the sweetness of my buddy's cum (so claimed by my spouse). And he didn't drink no juice for it, either.
Wasn't familiar with that, but essentially it's some form of romance novel. There's a bi new world out there.
It makes logical sense. Some guys love watching two lesbians go at it with each other. So women can be just as pervy as men. But humans aren't as pervy as dolphins. ;-)
Then again, dolphins aren't sharing gay scat porn at public gatherings like Pastor Martin "I Hate Sodomy But I Can't Help Getting Excited To the Point Of Sporting Some Serious Wood Describing It In Detail" Ssempa.
What is it with fundies and their collective anal fixation?
> > And you be knowin ahll aboot length, eh? > > > > Description envy? ;-) > > > > --Bekki > > Actually, apparently I'm so good with my average size dick - so I've heard from > females of various height and vaginal depths, who've had large cocks in them - that I > have no reason to be envious. > > However. I once was envious of the sweetness of my buddy's cum (so claimed by my > spouse). And he didn't drink no juice for it, either.
I can see how/why atheists get offended by talk of 'holier' things, and there will be no hesitation to gripe and moan about that sort of talk, and demanded to take it somewhere else....
> > > Chicks also get off on yaoi you know. > > > > Wasn't familiar with that, but essentially it's some form of romance novel. There's > a > > bi new world out there. > > Romance novel? No, yaoi is cartoon gay porn featuring young-looking characters.
Quote: Actually, apparently I'm so good with my average size dick - so I've heard from females of various height and vaginal depths, who've had large cocks in them - that I have no reason to be envious.
You only need a few good inches to satisfy the average vagina. Length is a bit of overkill and may do more harm than good. Girth is good as well but it's possible to have too much. So it's not the size that matters. Technique matters as well, and it need not involve only vaginal penetration.
But the best sex is always when both partners are very open in their communication of what they desire from each other. Sex ain't a sin. It's a part of the whole human experience and people shouldn't be afraid to to inquire about what turns themselves and their partners on.
Quote: However. I once was envious of the sweetness of my buddy's cum (so claimed by my spouse). And he didn't drink no juice for it, either.
Actually semen flavor is largely determined by what the sperm shooter eats. If your significant other wants some tasty spunk its best for the shooter to enjoy some yummy citrus and stay away from alcohol and tobacco. Low-sodium helps too.
Obviously stay away from asparagus. Phew!
I read too much Savage Love. You should read too much of it too. ;-)
Besides, me discussing the mechanics of the human reproductive system is gay enough. LOL!
Quote: I can see how/why atheists get offended by talk of 'holier' things, and there will be no hesitation to gripe and moan about that sort of talk, and demanded to take it somewhere else....
It's not the talk of "holy things" that bothers me.
If that's considered a "holy thing" then I'll rightfully raise a ruckus over it. It's arrogant and prejudiced beyond the pale. And not just against atheists. But anyone who doesn't bow down to monotheistic Christian belief. Anyone.
And in the name of "god", no less. Can you not see how insulting and depraved that is?
I don't play that game. It's ironic that evil would come in the form of a dark preacher offering the promise of salvation my parroting gullible peoples' own words. But it was predicted. And the lesson went unlearned. Who'd know it would be speaking in tongues via the scriptures of religion itself?
I take it back: Those people are assholes!
And, to my wonderful Judeao-christian friends who can't see that, WAKE UP! The dark ages have returned! And I'm one to fight for enlightenment.
> I can see how/why atheists get offended by talk of 'holier' things, and there will be > no hesitation to gripe and moan about that sort of talk, and demanded to take it > somewhere else.... > > It's not the talk of "holy things" that bothers me. > > It's how Christians believe that I'll roast for infinity after my death upon the > eternal rotisserie down South of "heaven". And the smugness they exude as they think > I'm one deserving of pity since I don't share such a depraved belief. It's how they > look down upon others who don't share their beliefs as not truly being "saved" and > doomed to that fire and brimstone. Forever. > > If that's considered a "holy thing" then I'll rightfully raise a ruckus over it. It's > arrogant and prejudiced beyond the pale. And not just against atheists. But anyone > who doesn't bow down to monotheistic Christian belief. Anyone. > > Kids are killing themselves because adult fundies taught their own kids them to hate > them via bullying and the adult administrations' own inaction. Only to satisfy a huge > brainwashed religiously insane political base largely devoid of compassion through > that. > > And in the name of "god", no less. Can you not see how insulting and depraved that > is? > > I don't play that game. It's ironic that evil would come in the form of a dark > preacher offering the promise of salvation my parroting gullible peoples' own words. > But it was predicted. And the lesson went unlearned. Who'd know it would be speaking > in tongues via the scriptures of religion itself? > > I take it back: Those people are assholes! > > And, to my wonderful Judeao-christian friends who can't see that, WAKE UP! The dark > ages have returned! And I'm one to fight for enlightenment. > > --Bekki
> I can see how/why atheists get offended by talk of 'holier' things, and there will be > no hesitation to gripe and moan about that sort of talk, and demanded to take it > somewhere else.... > > It's not the talk of "holy things" that bothers me. > > It's how Christians believe that I'll roast for infinity after my death upon the > eternal rotisserie down South of "heaven". And the smugness they exude as they think > I'm one deserving of pity since I don't share such a depraved belief. It's how they > look down upon others who don't share their beliefs as not truly being "saved" and > doomed to that fire and brimstone. Forever. > > If that's considered a "holy thing" then I'll rightfully raise a ruckus over it. It's > arrogant and prejudiced beyond the pale. And not just against atheists. But anyone > who doesn't bow down to monotheistic Christian belief. Anyone. > > Kids are killing themselves because adult fundies taught their own kids them to hate > them via bullying and the adult administrations' own inaction. Only to satisfy a huge > brainwashed religiously insane political base largely devoid of compassion through > that. > > And in the name of "god", no less. Can you not see how insulting and depraved that > is? > > I don't play that game. It's ironic that evil would come in the form of a dark > preacher offering the promise of salvation my parroting gullible peoples' own words. > But it was predicted. And the lesson went unlearned. Who'd know it would be speaking > in tongues via the scriptures of religion itself? > > I take it back: Those people are assholes! > > And, to my wonderful Judeao-christian friends who can't see that, WAKE UP! The dark > ages have returned! And I'm one to fight for enlightenment. > > --Bekki
Well, the point was more about how people get upset at something they find offensive. I found what Mogli said offensive. Others have voiced their dislike on things so I should be just as entitled to voice my opinion. But at any rate....
Lately I've been wanting to seek a spiritual relationship with something higher and greater than I (e.g. God). Not so much being "religious" but more pure and clean in my spirit. You've heard of "garbage in, garbage out"..? The opposite should be true. Reading the word of God can fill your heart and mind with a sense of empathy and charity towards others, as well as making oneself humble. Or, that's how I see it (and that has been my experience). I would like to meditate on scripture, verses, etc. Personally, I don't know of any other christian that does this. Then again, I've never inquired. Again I say 'meditate'. That's usually something associated with (far?) eastern religions. All the deep and slow breathing, relaxing parts of the body, yet maintaining focus on something, or repeating words or phrases. The goal of this practice would be to become enlightened, gentle as a dove -yet wise as a serpent. And, Lord willing, use it to be a Light unto others. Because, nobody was ever converted being bashed over the head with a bible.
Some would say that a Christian should be someone that cares for and helps the sick, dying, and less fortunate. There are those that are frail and sick in body, and those that are the same but in a spiritual sense. The drug addict may not want help, but they surely do need it. And the worst thing one could do for a drug addict is to encourage the destructive habits that will ultimately end up destroying their mind and/or body. And just to note -when I say "drug addict" that can also be used in a metaphorical sense. There are those that are addicted to sin. But, one can only help themselves when it comes to spiritual healing or redemption. That's why everyone has free will. Probably the best "advertisement" or way of promoting a ("holy" or "christian") lifestyle is the way we live, not by condemning others. But it is my belief that condemnation only comes from within. For, if anything that was said would be seen as offensive -then it must have some bit of validity -no? Otherwise it would be ignored or shrugged off. But, again, that's just my opinion.
Oh, and I should point out the difference between being offended by being "preached at" and then feeling condemned, and being offended at something that is disgusting.
I guess the way I look at it is Christians are supposed to share the good news that Jesus is the Christ and that He offers Salvation.
To me, I am a filthy sinner, no matter how I try to clean myself up, I am like a kid that likes playing in the mud puddle and get dirty. The only way I can be cleaned is through what Jesus did on the cross, and the fact He was resurrected and that I believe it and profess it guarantees I will be resurrected when I die.
If people want to reject that Salvation, that is their choice. But I find it a bit hypocritical that people will openly bash religion, and think that's ok, but then get upset when its discussed as a positive.
If people are free to bash it, people should be free to exalt it.
Again in my view Christians are just as sinful as non Christians, their Salvation isn't based on what they did, but what Jesus the Christ did.
> I guess the way I look at it is Christians are supposed to share the good news that > Jesus is the Christ and that He offers Salvation. >
Yes. This is one way we can be a witness for Christ. We can also share our testimony of how we were brought out of sin, or had our mental/psychological burdens taken away, and having a sense of being renewed, having a fresh start on life because deep down we know in our being of beings that we're forgiven. Only the purest Love can do that.
> To me, I am a filthy sinner, no matter how I try to clean myself up, I am like a kid > that likes playing in the mud puddle and get dirty. The only way I can be cleaned is > through what Jesus did on the cross, and the fact He was resurrected and that I > believe it and profess it guarantees I will be resurrected when I die. > > If people want to reject that Salvation, that is their choice. But I find it a bit > hypocritical that people will openly bash religion, and think that's ok, but then get > upset when its discussed as a positive. >
Who you are isn't as important as what you are when it comes to making critical statements.
> If people are free to bash it, people should be free to exalt it. > > Again in my view Christians are just as sinful as non Christians, their Salvation > isn't based on what they did, but what Jesus the Christ did.
What they'll be quick to say is "please don't say we'll go to hell" -as if (you do the hokey pokey and) that's what it's all about. No. The key is -is that they can be saved from Hell. While I can understand they'd want to be left alone to do their own thing... I guess it takes having 2 revelations (or realizations)... That God loves them so much and he only wants them to live the happiest life they can live (and this doesn't always equal living the way WE want to live, for His ways are higher than our own, and he knows what is best for us), AND that hell is an eternal and unimaginable punishment. Why make NO effort to escape such a tragic fate?
"Ah, but Tom! Don't you know that hell is just an imaginary place thought up by church leaders as a means of controlling their followers through fear?"
Then that would assume that it's an irrational fear. But can you say that - for example, you hear on the news that a lion has escaped from the local zoo and that all citizens should stay indoors if at all possible until further notice. That would be an example of a healthy fear.
"So, you need to fear a bad place in order to be motivated to do good?"
No (and not that doing "good deeds" would save me from hell anyway)... I do good things to help myself and be a blessing to others. And it's not that I'm fighting temptations (and that's not to say I never have them), it's just that I'm free from wanting to willingly do them. That's right. I said I'm FREE.
Take for example a man I used to go to school with. He used to smoke. Now, a lot of people would consider smoking a "sin". This person also has a daughter. One day his daughter asked him if he'd please quit smoking because she didn't want to see him die (or something to that effect). So, he quit smoking (I don't know how long it took them to quit -I just took his word for it when he said he did quit). They loved their daughter enough... more than their filthy habit - which made it easy to give up. The same can be said of Christians. God wants us to live a happy life. The happiest we can be is when we set aside our sins and realize that those sins can separate us from God. When we love God enough -then to stop willfully sinning becomes all that much more easier.
That doesn't make believer perfect. We all still slip up from time to time. Some would say repentance should be a one time thing. But it can essentially be a daily (spiritual) exercise, going before our creator humbly, asking for forgiveness and help to change or stop those things we perceive to be stumbling blocks in our walk with God.
Bathroom "wet" humor has that effect. It's not for everyone.
Quote: Reading the word of God can fill your heart and mind with a sense of empathy and charity towards others, as well as making oneself humble.
I'd rather read technical documentation and encyclopedias. I love to learn and apply knowledge. I'm a very inquisitive person and harbor no taboos. I'm willing to go places where some fear to tread.
How about this: When some mentions "sacred cows" I get hungry and think "mmmmmmmm....hamburgers". ;-)
Quote: Some would say that a Christian should be someone that cares for and helps the sick, dying, and less fortunate.
Some people mistakenly believe that I'm a Christian because I do help and listen to people. Maybe even help them solve a problem or two or assist in getting a job done. It's just within my nature that I'm a caregiver. I politely tell them that I appreciate the flattery but they're mistaken.
It's that moment when they open their eyes and realize that one doesn't need religion to be a honest and conscientious person. They actually meet an atheist in the flesh for the first time and are amazed! That's when they are humbled when an oft-repeated stereotype gets shattered before their very eyes. They realize that they were wrong.
How can someone live a life without religion? Quite easily: It's just one less thing to worry about. It sure beats living under the dictatorship of an imaginary deity that will strike one down if one doesn't abide by its thin-skinned egotistical sadistic jealousy. :-)
There's only one life: This one. Now. Live it and enjoy it to the best of your own abilities.
Christianity isn't about what you do, its about Jesus the Christ. You *me, anyone* is a sinner, *we* need redeemed. Jesus is the only way to redemption.
There's nothing wrong with doing "good deeds" but that isn't what will save you from Eternal damnation. Having Jesus as your Savior is what will do that.
This life is a temporary moment, eternity dwarfs the limited time we have in this life.
Christians know that. They know that all are sinners save Jesus the Christ, that He is the Son of God. They know that even though they make mistakes, He *Jesus the Christ* doesn't and Sacrificed Himself on a cross to redeem them.
Christians see the empty tomb and know that Jesus has risen and they will to "If they believe in their heart and profess with their mouths that Jesus is Lord.
"Christianity isn't about what you do, its about Jesus the Christ. You *me, anyone* is a sinner, *we* need redeemed. Jesus is the only way to redemption.
There's nothing wrong with doing "good deeds" but that isn't what will save you from Eternal damnation. Having Jesus as your Savior is what will do that."
So what about babies that die before they learn/understand about that? Do all babies burn in hell by default? What about people that have never heard "the word of god", such as native americans before they were "blessed" with christianity (and polio blankets)?
I thought Jesus was humble? you are not humble.why cant keep you keep your religious beliefs to yourself? Do you really believe that spreading the word will buy yourself a ticket to heaven?
Humble? So humble is watching a ship sink and figure since you're saved and safe in a lifeboat, the heck with everyone else who's going to drown?
Jesus was quoted as saying He is the way, the truth, and the life, and that nobody comes to the Father except through Him.
Remember, you have a choice, that's all I'm saying. Maybe you're more bothered because you know you make the wrong one by rejecting Jesus than by the fact I'm discussing the choice?
greybeard you just dont get it.You do not care that you offend others with your religious talk.See there is one thing that bothers christians even more then people who dont believe in God.And that is people who believe in a creator,like me,but not YOUR god
But thats enough from me on religious affairs,since these discussions serve no purpose
Are those not legit questions though? If people have to believe in Jesus and spread his word to be saved, what happens to those that don't know of him? What about those born def and blind? Are they damned from the start?
I agree, I almost puked when I read it. I do talk about "poopoo and the gay parade" but it's not the same if it's in making a joke as...this. Anyway I'm going to lock threads where religion talk starts or anything this repulsive. Might as well start here. If anyone doesn't like it LEAVE.
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