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how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame
#244085 - 01/21/11 05:40 AM


would anyone know how to make a fishbowl effect in mame.i heard of strech mame but i dont understand how to start it.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: jumpmaniac81]
#244094 - 01/21/11 06:38 AM Attachment: fishbowl_effect.PNG 73 KB (0 downloads)


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Try using FBA - they have a 3D fishbowl effect option.

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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Tafoid]
#244134 - 01/21/11 08:59 PM


This would be a cool effect to simulate the lens on the Aztarac bezel. Other than that I can't image why anyone would want it.

http://www.centuri.net/aztarac.htm



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: jcroach]
#244143 - 01/22/11 12:43 AM


I'd have to agree. 3D Arcade does a fishbowl effect on its machine models and I find it utterly annoying, and it probably eats up CPU.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: jcroach]
#244179 - 01/22/11 07:35 AM


i came across it in an nes emulator.the effect would be fun but i know it isnt authentic.thanks for the response



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Nightvoice]
#244180 - 01/22/11 07:36 AM


yes it is anoying at some games but interesting in others.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Tafoid]
#244181 - 01/22/11 07:40 AM


hmmm thats the effect alright. you see im trying to get that effect on some games that were tilted in the arcades.but without the mame artwork it just doesnt seem right.you dont get that im looking at an arcade game feel.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: jumpmaniac81]
#244518 - 01/25/11 08:00 AM


Did this five years ago using StretchMAME:




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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: jumpmaniac81]
#245843 - 02/06/11 09:46 AM


> hmmm thats the effect alright. you see im trying to get that effect on some games
> that were tilted in the arcades.but without the mame artwork it just doesnt seem
> right.you dont get that im looking at an arcade game feel.

Build a cabinet.

I don't really get the preference for a curved tube. I just want the display native resolution. Could be a 19" arcade monitor in an original cab, a 27" arcade monitor like in my candy, or a 27" flat screen arcade multi-sync like on my main rig. (Although, I have gotten some great effects rendering at 800x600 and 1024x768, depending on the game and settings.)


@jcrouch: I just looked up Aztarac. Curious game. You get three lives - unless the base gets taken, and then the game's just fuckin over. ?? Great vector graphics, though (perhaps more powerful hardware was used). None of that stuttering star movement like in Star Wars. And the there are almost perfect circles drawn. Oh, also, if you leave the base, you can go indefintely away from it, the hitch being when the base is over run. So, in a sense, it's a very early real simulator.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: mogli]
#245938 - 02/07/11 05:39 AM


it was just for fun i was told about stretchmame but i dont understand how it works, so ill just stick with what i have.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Andrew]
#248051 - 03/05/11 09:29 PM


I'd really like to do the fishbowl effect in mame too. Tracked down stretchmame0.65, but there's no documentation with it and I can't for the life of me figure out how to do that effect. Little help?



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: dustmite]
#248085 - 03/06/11 04:15 AM


> Little help?

This isn't really fishbowl effect I guess, it's more like 3D effect. I have StretchMAME 0.59 build 020404. From the readme:


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StretchMAME 0.59 build 020404
=================================
(2002/04/04 release)


What is StretchMAME?
-------------------------------

StretchMAME is one of the clone MAME. It has the following features.
- Spurious motion-blur
- Blur-less stretching
- Spurious 3D view (keystone transform)
- Rotation, Expansion, Reduction

StretchMAME requires Direct3D. So you need 3D accelerator.


What is 'Spurious motion-blur'?
-------------------------------

Most arcade games do not have a translucence function. So they express
translucence by blink.
Then, spurious motion blur, this function mades true translucence by
compounding with the last frame.

This function is effective in the following game.
Quiz Nanairo Dreams: Nijiirotyou no Kiseki
DoDonPachi
Macross
Macross II
Mazinger Z
Altered Beast
Moon Walker
Alien Storm
Uo Poko

In the other games, shadows, lasers, and flames are beautiful.
Be attension, frame skipping makes hard to see. You need very fast PC.
Moreover, since DirectX7 is used, it does not work on WindowsNT4.0.


What is 'Spurious 3D view (keystone transform)'?
------------------------------------------------

It makes perspective view looks like 3D games.
In case you use this function, don't use windowed mode.



Usage
-----

This is a command-line version without GUI.(like official MAME)
At the first time, don't forget -createconfig. It makes INI file.

following options are added.

* -[no]spurious-motion-blur / -[no]smb
Enables or disables spurious-motion-blur.

* -[no]bilinear-filter / -[no]blf
Enables or disables bilinear-filer. When disabled (which is the default),
StretchMAME stretches without blur. You can get blur-less hw stretch.

* rotation
Clockwise angle of the screen.

* zoomx
* zoomy

* keystone-ratio


StretchMame Author (smame@mameworld.net)





From video.c:


Code:

// added by smame
{ "spurious-motion-blur", "smb", rc_bool, &win_motionblur, "1", 0, 0, NULL, "spurious motion blur" },
{ "bilinear-filter", "blf", rc_bool, &win_bilinear, "0", 0, 0, NULL, "stretch with bilinear filter" },
{ "rotation", NULL, rc_float, &f_rotation, "0.0", -360.0, 360.0, video_set_rotation, "rotation(degree)" },
{ "zoomx", NULL, rc_float, &win_zoomx, "1.0", -10.0, 10.0, NULL, "zoom x" },
{ "zoomy", NULL, rc_float, &win_zoomy, "1.0", -10.0, 10.0, NULL, "zoom y" },
{ "keystone-ratio", NULL, rc_float, &f_keystone_ratio, "1.0", 0.1, 10.0, video_set_keystone, "Keystone ratio(U/D)" },
{ NULL, NULL, rc_end, NULL, NULL, 0, 0, NULL, NULL }



I don't have the original settings I used back then when I took the snapshot but these seem to be pretty close (from smamepp.ini):



Code:

zoomx                   0.700000
zoomy 0.700000
keystone-ratio 0.600000



I wonder what smame is up to these days.

Edited by Andrew (03/06/11 04:24 AM)



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Andrew]
#248159 - 03/06/11 09:11 PM


Thanks Andrew!

Apparently the 0.65 version I downloaded doesn't have these features. I grabbed 0.59 and this worked.

Not really the fishbowl effect, but it got me thinking. The keystone effect allows you to basically tilt the image inward at the top (by setting it between 0 and 1) or tilt the image inward at the bottom (by setting it between 1 and 10). I'm wondering if it would be possible to separate the screen into top half and bottom half, and tilt each half in slightly. This might give a sort of fishbowl effect. Would love to play with the source for this and see if it's possible! Might be beyond my skills, but I'd like to give it a go.

Do you know where I can get the source for this? Zophar's domain has the 0.65 source and binary (neither of which contain this feature) and the 0.59 binary. I can't seem to find any download of stretchmame anywhere else on the net...



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: dustmite]
#248314 - 03/08/11 07:27 AM Attachment: smame-059-020404-src-fix.zip 119 KB (3 downloads)


> Do you know where I can get the source for this?

Attached. Happy coding.



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Re: how can i make a fishbowl effect in mame new [Re: Andrew]
#248349 - 03/08/11 07:40 PM


Cool. Thanks!


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