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need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
#354144 - 05/11/16 04:07 AM
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Hello all, Trying to get an old arcade cabinet back from the dead with PC and MAME32.
Issue I am having is: when selecting a game it shows bar graph loading to 100%, then black screen, then instant return to game list. (not loading ANY roms)
I'm using no front end.
I have looked at stickies on this site and others but to no avail. (web research point to people updating roms or MAME but I have done neither (these were matched and functional).
I have and older dell pentium 4 PC with XP sp1 and MAME32 version 0.72 and matching roms (yes i know its not the newest) I bought this as a package (emulator and matching roms on CD) from somebody on ebayUK years ago (2004). This worked out of the box on multiple PCs years ago and since this cd is read only I am not capable of swapping roms, overwriting, updating and such. All should still work?
I'm thinking maybe because PC is using Windows XP SP1 or maybe directX related problem?
Is there a log to look at in MAME 32 or errors?
Thanks for any and all suggestions.
Edited by oldtimegamer (05/11/16 04:15 AM)
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: oldtimegamer]
#354246 - 05/14/16 09:31 PM
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First try MAME .36. If that works, then try a version of MAME that corresponds to the period of XP you have. Probably .6x ...... Use a fresh directory of MAME, with default values.
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: oldtimegamer]
#354494 - 05/21/16 04:49 AM
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Thanks Traso. I solved this one by myself. Mame32 troubleshooting recommended to delete .ini file (as a last ditch effort) and it would automatically be recreated..boom -magic...that did the trick.
Thanks!
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Hooray for reading the docs. (nt)
[Re: oldtimegamer]
#354517 - 05/21/16 09:06 PM
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Traso]
#354902 - 05/29/16 12:33 PM
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> First try MAME .36. If that works, then try a version of MAME that corresponds to the
> period of XP you have. Probably .6x ...... Use a fresh directory of MAME, with
> default values.
You have to be kidding. The OP's system is a Pentium 4 from the mid 2000s, not a 486 from last century. MAME 0.174 runs fine on XP (any version, and probably Windows 2000 too), the catch is whether the PC itself has enough horsepower to run games with mid-90s 3D hardware, PC-based hardware or 1970s discrete logic (non-CPU) games.
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Heihachi_73]
#354904 - 05/29/16 02:04 PM
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Robbbert]
#354914 - 05/29/16 04:45 PM
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> 0.169 was the last version to work on Windows 2000. Usage of c++11 components is not
> supported on that platform.
Yeah, there's some valid proof that I don't have a Win2k machine to test. 
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Heihachi_73]
#354926 - 05/29/16 07:50 PM
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Didn't you see that he solved it?
Anyways, my first computer was a P4 1.8ghz. I had to get a new machine after .106 because of the video re-write in general, and games like Donkey Kong in particular. I recall your sayings of 11-second boot with 1 gig of ram and all that shit with XP SP3, but I don't fuckin see it. Not even with TinyXP, which I ran from thousand-eight till last year.
We didn't know what his processor speed or ram were, so safest bet was to start lean an early.
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Traso]
#354977 - 05/30/16 10:17 AM
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> Didn't you see that he solved it?
>
> Anyways, my first computer was a P4 1.8ghz. I had to get a new machine after .106
> because of the video re-write in general, and games like Donkey Kong in particular. I
> recall your sayings of 11-second boot with 1 gig of ram and all that shit with XP
> SP3, but I don't fuckin see it. Not even with TinyXP, which I ran from thousand-eight
> till last year.
>
> We didn't know what his processor speed or ram were, so safest bet was to start lean
> an early.
Yes, I noticed that after I posted, never looked at the date until after.
I have never actually used anything earlier than 0.58 and that was back in 2002 or so when I first got started on arcade emulation (SNES9x and PSEmu Pro is what got me started with emulation in the first place). MAME being one of the only emulators on the planet which supported the 24-bit graphics mode of the i810 video chipset on my old HP, without me having to drop down to 16-bit (the chip does not support 32-bit at all). Of course, with the video rewrite came the end of 24-bit support too (or maybe a bit later, I can't remember, but that PC had only gone as far as 0.89 anyway, when it was replaced).
If it's 1.8GHz it could be an early P4 (Williamette), which were quite ordinary to say the least, although it would still beat a triple-digit P3 or a Raspberry Pi/imame4all system hands down. My 2.8 Celeron (Northwood) system came with only 256MB of DDR1 from the factory, so who knows what the OP's RAM is.
And yes, the 2.8 does get to the login screen at 11 seconds (or around 15 seconds when the HDD light goes out), but that machine still has SP1, not SP3 (whether or not that affects loading times is another story - but to me it's all about what the PC is doing in the background which is what takes most systems so long to boot, even Vista can be tuned to boot to desktop in less than an hour, note sarcasm).
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Re: need help figuring out MAME or XP software or possible hardware issue
[Re: Heihachi_73]
#355146 - 06/01/16 09:22 PM
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Less than an hour. Hah. I experienced Vista once or twice on another's machine, and it didn't seem terrible, despite all the hubbub. I do prefer 7.
I started with around .6x, though have gone back and checked out everything since .36b. My first machine came with 256mb or ram, and 32mb video chip, which a firmware update a year or so later (automatic, Dell was good about that) upped to 48mb. It's for a long time been in my candy (dedicated verticle) with a 16mb ATI rage or something, running at 15khz.
SP1. Well, yeah, I loved SP1. Or even just XP. SP2 and 3 progressively encumbered the system, but I've gone with SP3 because I knew it would support what I wanted to do.
> Yes, I noticed that after I posted, never looked at the date until after.
I have never actually used anything earlier than 0.58 and that was back in 2002 or so when I first got started on arcade emulation (SNES9x and PSEmu Pro is what got me started with emulation in the first place). MAME being one of the only emulators on the planet which supported the 24-bit graphics mode of the i810 video chipset on my old HP, without me having to drop down to 16-bit (the chip does not support 32-bit at all). Of course, with the video rewrite came the end of 24-bit support too (or maybe a bit later, I can't remember, but that PC had only gone as far as 0.89 anyway, when it was replaced).
If it's 1.8GHz it could be an early P4 (Williamette), which were quite ordinary to say the least, although it would still beat a triple-digit P3 or a Raspberry Pi/imame4all system hands down. My 2.8 Celeron (Northwood) system came with only 256MB of DDR1 from the factory, so who knows what the OP's RAM is.
And yes, the 2.8 does get to the login screen at 11 seconds (or around 15 seconds when the HDD light goes out), but that machine still has SP1, not SP3 (whether or not that affects loading times is another story - but to me it's all about what the PC is doing in the background which is what takes most systems so long to boot, even Vista can be tuned to boot to desktop in less than an hour, note sarcasm).
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