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DU: Weekend Updates
#379963 - 12/09/18 10:12 PM
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Pit Fighter fiend update
[Re: Smitdogg]
#379966 - 12/10/18 03:33 AM
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The Pit Fighter dump is the newest version dumped, made in 1991
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Re: Pit Fighter update
[Re: Smitdogg]
#379976 - 12/11/18 01:02 AM
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>The Pit Fighter dump is the newest version dumped, made in 1991
After looking over the file src/mame/drivers/atarig1.cpp I thought it would be oldest release version when comparing rom set versus what is already supported.
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R.Coltrane sent us a dump of Pitfighter (US 2 players)
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Seeing rom labels as
136081 - 1628
136081 - 1629
136081 - 1630
136081 - 1631
I am going with a revision 1 when going by what is already in the source file and placed below rev 2 entry....
Pit Fighter (rev 9)
Pit Fighter (rev 7)
Pit Fighter (rev 6)
Pit Fighter (rev 5)
Pit Fighter (rev 4)
Pit Fighter (rev 3)
Pit Fighter (rev 2)
Pit Fighter (Japan rev 3, 2 players)
..or if the pcb did come from an actual dedicated 2 players cab, then it would be placed just below the (Japan rev 3, 2 players) entry.
Whoever adds the set later, have fun making the call to which section it goes to. 
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: Smitdogg]
#379977 - 12/11/18 01:10 AM
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>ShouTime dumped Jong Shin (Dynax)
Now that Dyna Electronics Jong Shin (1986) is in working order, is it the same mahjong title that is already shown on unMAMEd site?
Jan-Shin (Dynax, 86)
http://unmamed.mameworld.info/non_other80.html#JanShin
I didn't see the entry in the Dynax section of undumped Wiki pages.
Edited by gregf (12/11/18 06:48 PM)
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Re: Pit Fighter update
[Re: gregf]
#379978 - 12/11/18 01:11 AM
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I'm not going to argue over interpretations of the number system but it was built months later than all the sets in mame, the service mode date is 1991, all the sets in mame are 1990
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Re: Pit Fighter update
[Re: Smitdogg]
#379980 - 12/11/18 01:37 AM
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>over interpretations of the number system but it was built months later than all the sets
>in mame, the service mode date is 1991, all the sets in mame are 1990
But that is what makes this set weird with having newest "service mode date" as 1991 when labels read.
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136081 - 1628
136081 - 1629
136081 - 1630
136081 - 1631
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If it were actual revision 1, then "service mode date" should be 1990. It doesn't jive with what is already set up in source code.
If only former head-honcho Mr. G were still around to say...."Here is what we are going to do."
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Re: Pit Fighter update
[Re: gregf]
#379981 - 12/11/18 02:20 AM
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> > The Pit Fighter dump is the newest version dumped, made in 1991
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> After looking over the file src/mame/drivers/atarig1.cpp I thought it would be
> oldest release version when comparing rom set versus what is already supported.
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> R.Coltrane sent us a dump of Pitfighter (US 2 players)
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> Seeing rom labels as
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> 136081 - 1628
> 136081 - 1629
> 136081 - 1630
> 136081 - 1631
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> I am going with a revision 1 when going by what is already in the source file and
> placed below rev 2 entry....
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> Pit Fighter (rev 9)
> Pit Fighter (rev 7)
> Pit Fighter (rev 6)
> Pit Fighter (rev 5)
> Pit Fighter (rev 4)
> Pit Fighter (rev 3)
> Pit Fighter (rev 2)
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> Pit Fighter (Japan rev 3, 2 players)
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> ..or if the pcb did come from an actual dedicated 2 players cab, then it would be
> placed just below the (Japan rev 3, 2 players) entry.
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> Whoever adds the set later, have fun making the call to which section it goes to.
They're probably like the Konami numbering where each digit has a meaning rather than it being a higher = newer value.
gamenumber,rev,type,something else
so 136081-2028 is pitfighter-rev2-type0-something-something (2nd revision of the 3 player US cabinet)
in this case 36081 - 1628 it's probably the first released version of the 2 player (US? World?) cabinet
it can have a 1991 date and still be the first revision for that cabinet / region combination if they didn't distribute a 2 player version in that territory until 1991.
what surprises me is these Atari sets still showing up, I thought Aaron had access to the motherload.
but yeah basically it looks like the revisions start at 1 for any given cabinet / region combination. presumably this was sold as a conversion kit for generic 2 player cabinets after the initial 1990 wave, it isn't a bugfix for the 3 player version.
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: gregf]
#379982 - 12/11/18 02:33 AM
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: Diet Go Go Fan]
#379983 - 12/11/18 03:15 AM
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> Yes, they are the same game. Dyna was the first name for Dynax. The game was listed
> in the Dyna section http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Jong-Shin
but the Dyna name still seemed to be used even much later on Cherry Master stuff and the hardware seems to be entirely unrelated.
I'm not actually convinced it's all just a single company, maybe Dyna that did the Cherry Master stuff is actually different.
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: Haze]
#379989 - 12/11/18 05:37 PM
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> > Yes, they are the same game. Dyna was the first name for Dynax. The game was listed
> > in the Dyna section http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Jong-Shin
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> but the Dyna name still seemed to be used even much later on Cherry Master stuff and
> the hardware seems to be entirely unrelated.
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> I'm not actually convinced it's all just a single company, maybe Dyna that did the
> Cherry Master stuff is actually different.
I think you're right. I think the mahjong company changed their name because it was the same as the slot machine one.
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: Diet Go Go Fan]
#379990 - 12/11/18 07:19 PM
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Re: DU: Weekend Updates
[Re: Diet Go Go Fan]
#380009 - 12/12/18 07:49 PM
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