MAMEWorld Forums - Welcome to the War Room - Re: Joe Rogan props open the mouth of every Republican and shits down their throat

> In one statement you're saying a country is a bad place.

No I'm not. Actually it's probably the USA's Republican moron fest war on drugs in the Regan 80s that created the problem, and our love for cocaine and everything else.

>Then I (also) assert that a
> country is a bad place with my question. Then you say the question isn't valid
> because I'm saying the U.S. is better than the place they're fleeing (which must be a
> shitty place or else they wouldn't be trying to leave it in the first place). So I
> don't see how that question is "invalid".

I said the question shouldn't exist because it's based on a situation Satan Bouregard Sessions made and he shouldn't have been appointed to any position other than klan leader you fucking piece of shit.

> So why even come here if Mexico isn't any better than the U.S.?... why even risk
> detainment and separation of parent and child?

Exactly, you think exactly like Jeff Sessions.

> But... there is one flaw with my question. For them having been caught and detained
> means they'll have to go back to where they came from at some point.
>

Yep that's the one flaw.

> > > Is it like the mother and child will never be united ever again? Of course not.
> > > Buuuut... I can't say I know how long they'll be separated for.
> >
> > OK so first you're ignoring the cases where the kids are so young that after a
> month
> > they no longer recognize their real parents, but even if that wasn't there, you're
> > clearly a monster for in any way thinking it's ok to tell a mother you are going to
> > give her kid a bath and then separate them as a scare tactic. Jeff Sessions is so
> > inhumane that his own church voted to kick him out. He's just an absolutely
> terrible
> > human.
> >
>
> If they're so young that they forget who mom and dad are, they probably wouldn't know
> the difference after being reunited with them for a short while, or it would jog
> their apparently fragile memory.
>
> How is giving a kid a bath and the parent going to a cell a "scare tactic"?
>

Haha, yes it's just so funny.

> > > I suppose the real issue is the separation itself.
> >
> > The real issue is Republicans are deep racists and hate immigration of any kind on
> > account of it.
> >
>
> Riiiight. "KKK all the way baby!"
>
>
> > > I'm absolutely certain Joe is a Libertarian. But what is "free" about compulsory
> > > health insurance?
> >
> > Firstly you can't say he's a Libertarian
>
>
> Oh. I shouldn't assume he's Libertarian just because I've heard him say he is, and
> this...
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan#Advocacy
>
> Yeah. You're probably right. Just because something walks and talks like a duck,
> doesn't mean it should be called a duck. Therefore Joe ≠ Libertarian.
>

Mark my words: the next time you crop my words to misrepresent me I'm going to ban you. What I said is "Firstly you can't say he's a Libertarian so then you know x about how he feels about healthcare especially when he's right there telling you how he feels about it. The latter is probably more accurate than what you glean from a word. Whatever is the black and white extreme definition you are using for Libertarian is probably about as accurate as your view on "socialism". I'm not an expert but I don't think Libertarians want no government to the point where we don't have roads. Even right wings groups in countries other than the US believe in healthcare for all from the government."

> >
> > The best way to pay for it is clearly by cutting "defense" spending in half and
> > pulling out of 8 wars that no citizen wants so in addition to the fact that your
> > coverage will cost less, you wouldn't necessarily pay a thing for it if we can get
> > the government to pull their heads out of their ass, so in that case you'd save
> 100%
> > of the cost, or in a worse case scenario of your taxes getting raised, you'd pay
> > about half.
> >
>
> I agree.
>
>
> > As far as your argument of freedom, that is a criticism of Obamacare which is very
> > flawed and simply better than nothing, but anyway you already don't have this
> > "freedom" you mentioned if you are paying taxes at all, and you don't have freedom
> in
> > your car if you have to pay for insurance on it, you don't have the freedom to own
> > your house if you can lose it to the government if you don't pay property tax, and
> > you don't have freedom to just walk around doing whatever you want if there are
> > thousands of laws that dictate whether your "freedom" leads to you going to prison.
> > That's just a bullshit talking point with nothing underneath it. Wow what a great
> > "freedom" to have the right to break a limb and just have it heal at a 45 degree
> > angle and look like a retard.
>
>
> Very well. Point taken... But there's still the issue of some people not being able
> to afford Health/Medical Insurance, and there still being a fine for not having it.
> If that isn't a paradox - I don't know what is.

With Medicare for All that would not be an issue. With Romnycare there are some issues. They will be gone soon whether ISIS blows it up or whether the progressives take over and we switch to Medicare for All.

>
> And I guess I shouldn't proclaim that the fine is more than it would've cost to pay
> for the insurance. Either way and with either one - it's still a matter of money...
> or a lack thereof.

It's a flaw in a right wing insurance law system that dumbass Obama passed when he had control enough to pass something decent instead.