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Re: In motion
12/23/18 04:28 PM


> That single frame does a great job of shutting any "why not just use a capture card"
> arguments right up in terms of resolution, but to really put it into perspective how
> far the ld-decode project has come in the past year, here's a video of the Domesday
> National Disc intro decoded by ld-decode as of about a year ago:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DQZ0bwqcRSaAQRfIuqhDg6xc7C1ttka_/view
>
> Meanwhile, here's that same intro decoded with the latest WIP version of ld-decode
> off of Github: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YAPvAjiguQ7zUZ2vQZL7Ix4HCLsmPBNE
>
> Of immediate note are:
> - Drop-out detection and correction is massively improved (or rather, it actually
> exists in the first place)
> - Audio decoding is now implemented
> - Color gamut is wildly improved
> - Image stability is wildly improved
>
> There are, nonetheless, still areas where it can be improved. Small dropouts of only
> a few pixels aren't yet detected, but there are some theories that it should be
> possible to detect them based on a rapid loss of frequency lock, rather than the
> current method which is to detect a sudden spike above or below the expected signal
> levels.
>
> Anyway, suffice it to say that things are rolling right along. The main issue is
> going to be that the mainstay of the decoding process, ld-decode, is written in
> Python, and there's little interest on the Domesday86 team's part to port it to a
> compiled language. It's likely that someone will eventually have to port it between
> languages, and potentially make it GPU-accelerated, and that person is most likely
> going to have to be me.

First of all, its really, really nice to see how far and well this capture method has come. The difference is clearly visible. I already told you that yesterday and i meant it that way.

What makes me sad is that you still "somehow" need it, to point at the "why not just use a capture card" argument, as i was this guy.

But you dont tell, at what state the whole LD-development was, at that time. Or that the previous (MAME) capturing methods and especially the tools for it, where not practical / handy for anyone who really tried to preserve anything LD-related (and that to a point, where it was nearly impossible without tremendous afford).
You dont mention, that i just pointed at this and had a solution, what needs to be done to make this (old) capturing method properly and for everyone available.
You dont mention that the argument come from a born (out) of necessity-thing, because of the still ongoing process of LD-rot.
You dont mention, that even people from the MAME-dev team totally gave up on any chance to preserve something LD-related.
You dont mention what came out of this discussion, which is the fact, that there is such a thing like a Domesday86 project . A project, which maybe would not be known of any of us here.
You dont mention, that because of that fact, i said (and also did) i will either spend the money (that was planned as a budget for the capturing card and other affords needed) for upcoming LD-development or spend it for the DU to buy other cool things needed for MAME.

But you can mention the "shutting any "why not just use a capture card" arguments right up" or "there's little interest on the Domesday86 team's part to port it to a compiled language."

IMHO thats just not needed and doesnt do anything good, for any further and advanced process. At least nobody can say i am a bad loser, i still wish you a merry xmas and a happy new year.







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* DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator 05/12/18 08:39 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Simon Inns  07/29/18 12:58 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  07/16/18 02:35 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  07/16/18 03:26 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Doosh  07/17/18 11:12 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Doosh  12/23/18 03:26 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood gregf  12/23/18 09:59 AM
. * About Domesday Project... Qun Mang  12/23/18 06:21 PM
. * In motion MooglyGuy  12/23/18 12:47 PM
. * Re: In motion gregf  12/24/18 02:52 PM
. * Re: In motion jonwil  12/25/18 11:45 PM
. * Re: In motion gregf  12/26/18 11:02 PM
. * Re: In motion Foxhack  12/27/18 02:38 AM
. * Re: In motion MooglyGuy  12/26/18 12:03 AM
. * Re: In motion jonwil  12/26/18 10:41 AM
. * Re: In motion uman  12/23/18 04:28 PM
. * Re: In motion MooglyGuy  12/23/18 04:58 PM
. * Re: In motion uman  12/23/18 05:46 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  12/23/18 08:02 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Olivier Galibert  05/15/18 07:21 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Foxhack  05/15/18 04:23 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood CTOJAH  05/13/18 11:15 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  05/14/18 12:28 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood italiandoh  05/13/18 12:46 PM
. * I'm excited like a fridge MASH  05/13/18 02:47 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood Master O  05/13/18 02:37 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood btribble  05/12/18 11:36 PM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  05/12/18 11:41 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood StilettoAdministrator  07/14/18 06:01 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood SmitdoggAdministrator  05/12/18 10:11 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 03:10 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood MooglyGuy  05/13/18 07:08 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/13/18 04:55 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 05:23 AM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood JustNiz  05/13/18 08:10 PM
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. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood taz-nz  05/14/18 01:14 PM
. * definitely material for MAME FAQ section imo gregf  05/14/18 04:45 AM
. * Re: Quick link to Aaron's Laserdisc explanation... Bad A Billy  05/14/18 05:28 AM
. * Re: DU: The great laserdisc flood *=/STARRIDER\=*  05/14/18 02:41 AM

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