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Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm?
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Auhmmm.... That's true often in Culture, but in Art, no. Art is the [craft] of depicting one's mental imagery, for Art's sake. It often, and has often, used imagery from the world. Ideally, there is little to no message, just imagery or whatever content.

Of course, I'm again speaking from a sensibility of [Art] Music, as music is [about] the most abstract art. And in that vein, I tend to defer to such things. Here's some of my own. (I can, though, take only a little credit. I selected the music and WMP visualization that produced this.)




> Games are art. An art, but as well art. Art in the construction, art in the design,
> art in the final product, and art even in the playing, to some extent.
>
> The supreme purpose of art is to hold a mirror to the world. It reflects its subject,
> but also the time and place of its creation.
>
> You do not change the world by "fixing" the things art depicts; you can only do, if
> anything, the inverse: to change what art reveals about the world, you must change
> the world.
>
> Certainly, you can produce art that tries to change the world, but it best does that
> by exposing the thing you seek to change, not by hiding it, whitewashing it,
> pretending it doesn't exist. You need to proclaim as loudly as you can within your
> art that some ugliness exists, shove it in the face of those who would view it, and
> be sure to make clear that it is wrong.
>
> The videos and blogs attacking games, gaming, and gamers are therefor wrong, useless,
> and perhaps counterproductive. And the one video I saw was even factually inaccurate,
> mixing the simple depiction of modern depravity in distasteful forms with scenes that
> target those actions as being wrong and evil.
>
> Directing unwarranted violence toward a person is bad. So is directing unwarranted
> hatred toward a large --and growing-- segment of the population. More people are born
> into this world in which computerized recreation is normal every day, and you don't
> "grow out of" your enjoyment of such. Within whatever might be considered the
> developed world, in another generation only those who shun computers entirely outside
> of the workplace will not be "gamers." By all indications, the things she attacked
> will still exist, so will still be part of their experience.

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* #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? mike20599 10/04/14 07:09 AM
. * The mainstream media is picking up this story... mike20599  10/17/14 11:29 AM
. * Re: The mainstream media is picking up this story... Traso  10/18/14 03:01 AM
. * That's funny MooglyGuy  10/07/14 12:16 PM
. * Reddit link if you'd like to be more involved mike20599  10/07/14 06:24 PM
. * Re: Reddit link if you'd like to be more involved R. Belmont  10/07/14 07:48 PM
. * Here's a more balanced summary of events mike20599  10/05/14 04:53 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? TriggerFin  10/04/14 03:41 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Traso  10/05/14 05:04 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? TriggerFin  10/05/14 05:52 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Sune  10/05/14 07:06 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? TriggerFin  10/05/14 10:56 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Tomu Breidah  10/05/14 07:06 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Gor  10/05/14 11:25 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? URherenow  10/05/14 12:27 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Tomu Breidah  10/05/14 03:58 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Sune  10/05/14 05:11 AM
. * Huh?... Wha?..... [nt] Tomu Breidah  10/04/14 03:00 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? Vas Crabb  10/04/14 09:37 AM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? MooglyGuy  10/06/14 04:17 PM
. * Re: #GamerGate - What do you guys think about this shitstorm? R. Belmont  10/05/14 03:42 PM
. * *yawn* is what I think. Also, get off my lawn Sune  10/04/14 07:44 AM
. * The short version mike20599  10/04/14 09:30 AM

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