MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: The Sky is Falling! Or not.

> > It's been mentioned after all: bannister is a more elite place, go have a chat with
> > gentlemen coders here and leave the stupid plebe to memeworld.
> >
> > @Vaughan: to me genuine low res RGB CRT's superiority is still obvious, I've owned
> > several, still do, living in Europe it's always been easy access and display/signal
> > quality an important part of the experience.
> > Not saying we should never kiss CRTs goodbye, but I don't feel the current flat
> panel
> > displays + shaders are worthy-enough replacements yet.
> > Maybe in some years when OLED or similar (4K or more) with gaming monitor variants
> > will hopefuly become widely available and affordable.
> > I know my CRT's will easily live another decade or two, I'm going to keep them
> until
> > I can tell 'okay I can live with only simulation'.

EXACTLY, very well described.

> I no longer own a CRT, though I grew up with them. Since I've almost spent a large
> amount of time on computers, I tend to be swayed by my experience through using them.
> CRT's are big, clunky, heat generators. And hi-res looks like hell on them (albeit
> PAL was better than NTSC).
>
> Modern TV's and monitors are just fantastic, imo. In the sense that they differ from
> CRT's - such as the mechanics of scanlines etc. - it's all better with modern stuff,
> imo.

Yeah and in other peoples opinion IT IS NOT... period. You have your opinion and we have ours.

> What the modern stuff can't do, is to be a CRT. It's just not. For those that
> slavishly try to get scanlines going, and all that stuff.... well, perhaps they would
> be better served by just getting a CRT and using it. Not that there's no point in the
> emulation, but hey, a CRT will beat an emulated CRT every time.

There was a time, where i would act like "CRTs only", but i have changed my mind a long time ago, because CRTs are disappearing and in some countries more than in others, so i see a necessarity in CRT simulation and try to help wherever i can with this task. And for sure i dont count the HQ3x bullshit to it. Be happy that the devs have the mercy, to add support to this IMO rather crap looking shaders, where everything looks like a licked candy-drops. IMO

> Kind of like 2600 emulation. There are some good emulators out there, for day to day
> game playing, they're more than adequate. But I accept that when I dig out my
> original hardware, plug in the cartridge, and play.... well, that's on a different
> level. No emulation can replicate that. There's so much more to it than can be easily
> described, if that makes sense.

> Moving forward - well it's another strange area. It's just my personal opinion, but I
> think a lot of Mame people are so intent in looking backward, they forget that the
> momentum is forwards. Yes, Pacman was coded in 288 X 244 - that's good and all, but
> in modern terms it's a bit limited. Methods to ease into a more modern setting aren't
> a stain on emulation, an insult to the original developers, or an attack on Mame
> itself - it's simply a big picture view that looks both ways.
>
> I want emulation, but I don't want it to be 1980 again.

schizophrenic answers IMO. on one side dont want to live in 1980 and on the other side turns on his atari 2600 and even dont have the nerves to understand why people still love their CRT IMO