MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: MAME.exe no longer showing compile date?

> For a moment I was thinking 'wow Haze is so cool' and then;
>
> > We're not, for the most part, dealing with ultra-intelligent people here, if
> anything a lot of our userbase seems to be of significantly below average
> intelligence (but often with good practical skills instead)
>

Sorry, this wasn't meant explicitly as a 'user base' it was an observation.

I've done things for other audiences and got a different feeling about the userbases, I think some of it is simply background, arcades attracted quite a rough crowd even back in the day, so people who follow MAME as 'something to play arcade' games are often of a similar background. It doesn't really surprise me that a lot of the brightest minds we've encountered lately have come from the MESS side of the project, people who grew up leaning specific pieces of hardware inside out etc.

As I said tho, I see a lot of good practical skills, the cab building etc. but when it comes to others areas there doesn't seem to be a good level of understanding without spoon feeding everything. The number of times we have to repeatedly dispel old myths and explain the obvious is significant, and yes, we need to do it, because it's important that the right information is out there, so no, cutting off all communications isn't a good idea.

Now, I'm sorry if you actually find that offensive, I was simply considering it a requirement in the way we present what we do, ie, regardless of how the project might evolve we're always going to have to present an *easy* way of doing things and present easily digestible information because for the most part a lot of our userbase seem to need that - as soon as things get even slightly complex they flee. That's just going on personal experience, trying to convince people to use something like QMC2 and have them reject it, simply because it's not as much of a '1 click solution' as MAMEUI.

It makes me happy when Dullaron has a good understanding of things, because he has posted on here before to say he has actual disabilities yet often manages to get a really good grasp on how a lot of the things we do, even some of the more advanced ones work. That is what we should be aiming for.

We *could* go full 'fuck you' and make thing as complex as we'd like, make the barrier to entry for MAME *actually* steep, but I'm advising caution against that.

If I see changes that seem to be heading in that direction, replacing easy to understand information with something meaningless, yes, I'll make a point about it, it's my duty to do so.