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Conspiracy theories
#239791 - 11/26/10 03:43 PM
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Conspiracy theories are often popular due to the conspiracy factor they involve, however what people would need to realize is the theory factor, as they are just theories, as their name implies, and thus they haven't been proven. Over the years, many conspiracy theories which couldn't be turned down by arguements and arguments were turned down with facts. So you can have a solid conspiracy theory which is nothing but a balloon full of hot air. Big, but nothing solid. This doesn't mean any deterrent for conspiracy theorists to keep believing in any given theory in any given moment. There, conspiracy theories and religion become indistinguishable, as keeping believing in those theories is more an act of faith than a consequence of intelligence.
So sometimes I feel pity (and sorry for that, there's no other way I can say it) for the lunar landing conspiracy theorists. With all their reasonings about shadows in the picture, a hanging piece of fabric, dust in/on/around footsteps, proofs about that such technology couldn't have existed back in the day, etc. They keep believing that it was all a conspiracy and it never happened, and choose to reject all the facts that prove otherwise.
Occam's razor, although being a difficult instrument to use, can come to some help. It is easier to believe that they landed on the moon than to believe that they didn't but they made some kind of awkward imposture to make everyone believe that they did. I do believe they landed on the moon, they put a man on the moon, man on the moon.
Because you all haven't noticed that all of a sudden no one cared to get back up there and fulfill all the ideas and dreams of a permanent human base on the moon, and all the geologists cries about how useful would be to learn more about the moon because it would be like discovering more about how the earth formed 6,000 years ago (sic). They concocted a complex plan to prevent that from happening, including spreading around conspiracy theories about how the lunar landing was a hoax. Instead, I prefer to wonder what did they found up there to prefer that no one thinks about it. There you go, trapped in your own conspiracy theory.
MOON
A damn great movie that you can enjoy more if you add up even more paranoic layers.
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Re: Conspiracy theories
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#239831 - 11/27/10 04:52 AM
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First off, I don't think that the moon landings were faked. However you can't dismiss "conspiracy theories" immediately. Are you just supposed to accept what is told to you in the press without asking questions? There are many things that simply don't add up or are too suspicious in many major events recent or historic. From 9/11, to JFK, to even Jesus Christ.
The most important thing to look at first off is where the information coming from. Don't tell me for a second that you think you're getting 100% of the facts from mainstream media. The news outlets have their own agendas and reasoning for swaying the public in a certain direction.
Look at Pearl Harbor for instance. For decades the american public was lead to believe that the US was attacked, seemingly unprovoked in an effort to draw them into the war. It hasn't been until very recently (history wise) that evidence points towards prior knowledge of the attacks and little resistance to stop it. A total shift in perception of what appeared to happen that day.
The media also immediately dis-credits conspiracy theorists and labels them as crazy, or as lunatics in an effort to squash any independent investigation. The same with the 9/11 commission reports. If you look at who exactly was on the commission, and trace their history and political leanings, then it's pretty easy to see that the "final story" of 9/11 is biased, rushed, and those that did the so called investigation did so very clumsily and unprofessional.
To say we have all the facts, and can close the books in many historical events is naive and irresponsible.
For every crackpot conspiracy theory, there are valid questions that should be able to be answered with hard-core investigation, evidence, and facts.
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Re: Conspiracy theories
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#239835 - 11/27/10 05:49 AM
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> First off, I don't think that the moon landings were faked. However you can't dismiss
> "conspiracy theories" immediately. Are you just supposed to accept what is told to
> you in the press without asking questions? There are many things that simply don't
> add up or are too suspicious in many major events recent or historic. From 9/11, to
> JFK, to even Jesus Christ.
>
> The most important thing to look at first off is where the information coming from.
> Don't tell me for a second that you think you're getting 100% of the facts from
> mainstream media. The news outlets have their own agendas and reasoning for swaying
> the public in a certain direction.
>
> Look at Pearl Harbor for instance. For decades the american public was lead to
> believe that the US was attacked, seemingly unprovoked in an effort to draw them into
> the war. It hasn't been until very recently (history wise) that evidence points
> towards prior knowledge of the attacks and little resistance to stop it. A total
> shift in perception of what appeared to happen that day.
>
> The media also immediately dis-credits conspiracy theorists and labels them as crazy,
> or as lunatics in an effort to squash any independent investigation. The same with
> the 9/11 commission reports. If you look at who exactly was on the commission, and
> trace their history and political leanings, then it's pretty easy to see that the
> "final story" of 9/11 is biased, rushed, and those that did the so called
> investigation did so very clumsily and unprofessional.
>
> To say we have all the facts, and can close the books in many historical events is
> naive and irresponsible.
>
> For every crackpot conspiracy theory, there are valid questions that should be able
> to be answered with hard-core investigation, evidence, and facts.
...and you probably will know the truth when no one really cares about anymore. For instance if the moon landings were indeed faked, you will truly know probably when an habitable moon base will be installed for once. I mean, they assure there's no interest in landing in the moon again but there's interest in sending people to mars when they haven't covered the reachable basics. On the other hand if by Moon you refer to "Raising Moon" by José Escamilla, the very same who made us believe rods exists, then i see what are you pointing at.
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Re: Conspiracy theories
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#239845 - 11/27/10 11:54 AM
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> First off, I don't think that the moon landings were faked.
First off, you missed the whole point of my post. It was just an elaborate joke to prove the different layers of gullibility that you can choose to fall for ^_^
   
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