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#366268 - 05/23/17 09:50 PM


Roger Moore dead: 'James Bond' actor was 89

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Never watched a single Sean Connery Bond film until after Moore retired from the role. Who was your James Bond? Anyone here old and crusty enough to answer "Sean Connery"? Still wet-behind-the-ears enough to say "Daniel Craig"?

Edit: I was thinking more in line with your age when you first enjoyed the movies and who was Bond at that point, but go ahead answer as you wish of course.

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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366269 - 05/23/17 10:55 PM




Man, what a hard question....

For being an asshole & not giving a damn, Sean Connery. For being cocky & pushing his luck, Roger Moore.

I was surprised how well pierce Brosnan did with the roll, actually enjoyed his portrayal.

Timothy Dalton.. no....

Daniel Craig, seems like he's always pissed off but don't know why, like working a job he hates.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366270 - 05/23/17 10:56 PM


Of course Sean Connery, but no one would ever say Daniel Craig. Pshh.







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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Renegade]
#366271 - 05/23/17 11:31 PM


I meant more in line with age- who was James Bond when you saw the movies for the first time (and enjoyed them). I suppose if you didn't like the Bond of your age (Daniel Craig for example) then you would have to pick a different one. Of course these days it's easier to see any Bond movie you want as a teen- had to go to the video store and rent the older Bond films or wait for a TV network to air them (edited of course...) when I was a kid.

However, any can answer as they see fit.


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I was surprised how well pierce Brosnan did with the roll, actually enjoyed his portrayal.

Timothy Dalton.. no....




If it weren't for selfish Remington Steele producers there would have been no Timothy Dalton Bond- Brosnan would have picked up the role from Moore. I did enjoy him in the role as well.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366274 - 05/24/17 03:01 AM


I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I don't mind Dalton as Bond, and I never really liked Roger Moore. Watching Roger Moore never felt like I was watching James Bond. Roger Moore is great in The Saint, though. I liked Brosnan in Golden Eye - that film worked really well - but I don't like him in the subsequent films.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Vas Crabb]
#366275 - 05/24/17 03:07 AM


I've never minded any of the Bond actors overall, just grandpa Connery in Never Say Never Again. That movie is shit.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Smitdogg]
#366276 - 05/24/17 04:07 AM


> I've never minded any of the Bond actors overall, just grandpa Connery in Never Say
> Never Again. That movie is shit.


Ironically, that movie isn't considered a "real" bond movie. Don't remember the specifics but it was made without either Fleming family or bond studio consent. It's actually a remake of a older bond film.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Renegade]
#366277 - 05/24/17 04:09 AM


The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of shit.

Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Renegade]
#366279 - 05/24/17 06:56 AM


> > I've never minded any of the Bond actors overall, just grandpa Connery in Never Say
> > Never Again. That movie is shit.
>
> Ironically, that movie isn't considered a "real" bond movie. Don't remember the
> specifics but it was made without either Fleming family or bond studio consent. It's
> actually a remake of a older bond film.

The whole situation with that is weird. Ian Flemming's 1961 novel Thunderball is based on an unfilmed James Bond screenplay called Longitude 78 West. The 1965 film Thunderball is based on the novel, and the 1983 film Never Say Never Again is also based on the novel. After the 1965 film was released, the authors of the original screenplay sued over rights to the characters/story.

Never Say Never Again wasn't produced by Eon like the other Bond films - it was done by an independent company that included one of the authors of the original Longitude 78 West screenplay. It opened just four months after the Eon-produced Octopussy.

Is it a Bond film? I'd say it is. I mean, the Daniel Craig ones are just like generic action films with a guy called James Bond in them, and no-one pretends they aren't Bond films.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366283 - 05/24/17 11:30 AM


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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366286 - 05/24/17 02:20 PM


Connery & Moore were the two best actors to play Bond imo and they rank equally for me. Brosnan was also good as Bond but I don't really like Craig. As for Dalton, he just had the bad luck of being Bond at the wrong time. The movies were just bad and no Bond actor could have saved them.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Robbbert]
#366315 - 05/25/17 12:17 PM


> My favourite James Bond movie is Live and Let Die,

Yes, me too - great movie. I saw it at the cinema when it first came out (amazing I got in, I was very young). Also saw Enter the Dragon around the same time. Two amazing movies. So many great scenes. The graveyard scene in LALD was awesome. Roger is my favourite Bond.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Smitdogg]
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> The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of shit.
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> Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.


It did co-star Gravitar though.

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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth [Re: Renegade]
#366323 - 05/25/17 07:02 PM


> > I've never minded any of the Bond actors overall, just grandpa Connery in Never Say
> > Never Again. That movie is shit.
>
>
> Ironically, that movie isn't considered a "real" bond movie.

It is a Bond movie, legit. The producers obtained rights to do the movie due to a mishap as Vas Crabb told. It's not a canonical Eon Productions Bond movie, as well as Casino Royale (the one with David Niven) is also a Bond movie, done with all legal stuff, but it's not a canonical Eon Productions Bond movie. With 'canonical', the only thing that matters is that the next movie is going to be the 26th instead of the 29th, or whatever numbers.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Smitdogg]
#366325 - 05/25/17 07:04 PM


> The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of shit.
>
> Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.

Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was genuinely wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all. RIP and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember him for.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Pi]
#366329 - 05/25/17 11:03 PM


> Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was genuinely
> wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all. RIP
> and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember him
> for.

Well, to be fair his roles in TV shows he is also known for were before my time. Heck, even his first couple Bond films were though I have since watched them. Awhile ago I decided to watch all the main Bond films in order, but I stopped somewhere in the mid-70s and haven't picked them up since. Of course I have seen most of the rest in theaters, but it will be nice to rewatch them as it has been awhile.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366331 - 05/25/17 11:47 PM


> Roger Moore dead: 'James Bond' actor was 89
>
> roger-moore.com
>
> Never watched a single Sean Connery Bond film until after Moore retired from the
> role. Who was your James Bond? Anyone here old and crusty enough to answer "Sean
> Connery"? Still wet-behind-the-ears enough to say "Daniel Craig"?
>
> Edit: I was thinking more in line with your age when you first enjoyed the movies and
> who was Bond at that point, but go ahead answer as you wish of course.

I was never too much into James Bond, but, I distinctly remember enjoying The Man With The Golden Gun when I was a kid. Plus, that's where I found out about Christopher Lee.

So if we're going for "my" James Bond, I guess it'd be him.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Pi]
#366333 - 05/25/17 11:49 PM


> > The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of
> shit.
> >
> > Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.
>
> Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was genuinely
> wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all. RIP
> and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember him
> for.

I actually remember him more for his role as a con man in The Quest. Yes, the JCVD movie. That's my favorite role of his (of the few I've seen in my lifetime.)



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Foxhack]
#366337 - 05/26/17 01:28 AM


> > > The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of
> > shit.
> > >
> > > Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.
> >
> > Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was genuinely
> > wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all. RIP
> > and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember him
> > for.
>
> I actually remember him more for his role as a con man in The Quest. Yes, the JCVD
> movie. That's my favorite role of his (of the few I've seen in my lifetime.)




I liked him in "the saint" & yes I'm that old



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Renegade]
#366341 - 05/26/17 02:49 AM


> > > > The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile of
> > > shit.
> > > >
> > > > Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.
> > >
> > > Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was
> genuinely
> > > wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all.
> RIP
> > > and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember
> him
> > > for.
> >
> > I actually remember him more for his role as a con man in The Quest. Yes, the JCVD
> > movie. That's my favorite role of his (of the few I've seen in my lifetime.)
>
>
> I liked him in "the saint" & yes I'm that old

Reruns are a thing, old man.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366342 - 05/26/17 04:37 AM


> Who was your James Bond? Anyone here old and crusty enough to answer "Sean
> Connery"?

Definitely Sean Connery. I was born in '74 so I watched the older movies with Sean Connery on TV before I could go to the cinema in the 80s and watch A View To A Kill etc. I've never seen Moonraker. Roger Moore is hm dunno like the Benny Hill of James Bond I guess lol. James Bond was already corny but Roger Moore just made it cornier.

Apparently it's against popular opinion but to me Daniel Craig is the best James Bond since Sean Connery.

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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Sune]
#366345 - 05/26/17 06:11 AM


> > Who was your James Bond? Anyone here old and crusty enough to answer "Sean
> > Connery"?
>
> Definitely Sean Connery. I was born in '74 so I watched the older movies with Sean
> Connery on TV before I could go to the cinema in the 80s and watch A View To A Kill
> etc. I've never seen Moonraker. Roger Moore is hm dunno like the Benny Hill of James
> Bond I guess lol. James Bond was already corny but Roger Moore just made it cornier.
>
> Apparently it's against popular opinion but to me Daniel Craig is the best James Bond
> since Sean Connery.
>
> S

Interesting. I was born a few years before you and don't remember ever seeing the movies on TV. As I already mentioned Roger Moore was my first introduction to James Bond. As for Daniel Craig, his Bond portrayal is definitely different from Moore's, Connery's , and Brosnan's (I'll have to rewatch the Dalton films as I don't remember his Bond very well, nor Lazenby's for that matter). Perhaps Craig is closer to Fleming's Bond? I don't know myself as I've never read the books, but some think so anyway.



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366347 - 05/26/17 07:22 AM


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*Toasts an imaginary dry martini* new [Re: Qun Mang]
#366352 - 05/26/17 03:12 PM


Roger Moore always seemed like an older man to me. I mean, well, if he was/is 89 when he died, then he had to be in his 50's, or maybe 40's (?) when he was in (his) Bond movies. Right?

Then again, maybe that was the point of James Bond. I think I'd rank him just above Timothy Dalton (whom I'd consider to be my least favorite Bond actor).

I haven't seen any Daniel Craig Bond movies yet. :/



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Robbbert]
#366353 - 05/26/17 03:37 PM


> > Interesting. I was born a few years before you and don't remember ever seeing the
> > movies on TV. As I already mentioned Roger Moore was my first introduction to James
> > Bond. As for Daniel Craig, his Bond portrayal is definitely different from Moore's,
> > Connery's , and Brosnan's (I'll have to rewatch the Dalton films as I don't
> remember
> > his Bond very well, nor Lazenby's for that matter).
>
> I've only ever seen the Bond movies on TV... there's no movie theatres around here
> anyway.

Not arguing that they weren't on TV of course- I just don't remember watching them on TV. Probably didn't give a rip about Bond in my early years.

>
> Speaking of Lazenby, in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, there's an amusing moment at
> the start, just as the fight on the beach ends, and the woman steals his car and
> drives off. He says to himself, "that never happened to the other guy".




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Re: *Toasts an imaginary dry martini* new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#366356 - 05/26/17 04:24 PM


> Roger Moore always seemed like an older man to me. I mean, well, if he was/is 89 when
> he died, then he had to be in his 50's, or maybe 40's (?) when he was in (his) Bond
> movies. Right?

He was 3 years older than Connery oddly enough, so age-wise he was pretty much picking up where Connery left off in the role rather than rebooting it.

>
> Then again, maybe that was the point of James Bond. I think I'd rank him just above
> Timothy Dalton (whom I'd consider to be my least favorite Bond actor).
>
> I haven't seen any Daniel Craig Bond movies yet. :/



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Re: So long Roger Moore- the James Bond of my youth new [Re: Foxhack]
#366374 - 05/27/17 02:22 PM


> > > > > The only consent it has is the actors and writers consented to making a pile
> of
> > > > shit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably Pi will show up and say he likes it.
> > > >
> > > > Nah I barely like any Bond movie besides the Craig ones. Roger Moore was
> > genuinely
> > > > wasted as an actor doing all those Bond movies where there was no Bond at all.
> > RIP
> > > > and everything, but I'm sad that Bond was the character everyone will remember
> > him
> > > > for.
> > >
> > > I actually remember him more for his role as a con man in The Quest. Yes, the
> JCVD
> > > movie. That's my favorite role of his (of the few I've seen in my lifetime.)
> >
> >
> > I liked him in "the saint" & yes I'm that old
>
> Reruns are a thing, old man.

I loved him in Boat Trip.


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