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Sweeeeeet!
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#255612 - 05/26/11 12:44 AM
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My bad on the Video Pinball bezel, though. This is already completed. Just not released yet, because I was waiting on the backdrop (which seems to be somewhat available now  )
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Re: Sweeeeeet!
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#255619 - 05/26/11 02:46 AM
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> No Kidding?
> I spoke with xiaou2 about it and appreciate the concerns.
> I can't wait to see what you've got.
> It was a major PITA to scan.
Um... I was talking about your scan
Still want to see what xiaou2 come up with for a final version, but now it can at least start.
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Re: Thanks a pile!
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Re: Sweeeeeet!
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#255631 - 05/26/11 06:51 AM
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Oh, oops my mistake.
Thought you were referring to the stars part of the playfield.
Long day spent making VP look presentable. 
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Re: Thanks a pile!
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Re: Thanks a pile!
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#255700 - 05/27/11 03:22 AM
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How to scan Video Pinball?
Do it again, and again, and again. Repeat.
VP is a print on cardboard with a foam core print glued to the top.
Not a big deal right?
Wrong.
The big ass scanners at BPS had a lot a problems with the uneven surfaces. Going from cardboard to foam core was just to much for the rollers and sensors to handle.
So I built a frame out of foam core to hold the playfield flat and with 3" of board on all sides and the back.
Now the thing was to thick, so, rip the back board off and try again.
Still was pain in the ass. The sensors still had issues with the cut out areas. Spent 3 hours sitting and waiting while they went at it over and over.
So, what we've got is pretty darn good, but not perfect.
Perfect would involve stripping the foam core away and scanning the board itself.
Actually, this might be possible without destroying the playfield.
The foamcore is glued down to the surface, and as it happens, one piece popped off cleanly.
It may very well be possible to pull the foamcore off the board without doing any damage.
I'll be looking into that, but since this is borrowed from a working machine, it's probably not gonna happen.
As for blacklight, I will be attempting some photos of the board both head on and back inside the cabinet, sitting on the mirror, and then back in its proper location.
I'll do long exposure photos, without the bezel causing reflection. This should provide us with some reference material and perhaps something usable.
I leave it to MrDo! to work his blacklight voodoo on this piece.
Eventually, Mame might give us the ability to present the game on a slope as originally intended. My hope is that having the art finally in game will inspire others to push the graphics further. The latest addition of filters certainly is moving in that direction.
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Re: Thanks a pile!
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#256154 - 05/31/11 02:44 PM
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> How to scan Video Pinball?
> Do it again, and again, and again. Repeat.
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> VP is a print on cardboard with a foam core print glued to the top.
> Not a big deal right?
> Wrong.
> The big ass scanners at BPS had a lot a problems with the uneven surfaces. Going from
> cardboard to foam core was just to much for the rollers and sensors to handle.
> So I built a frame out of foam core to hold the playfield flat and with 3" of board
> on all sides and the back.
> Now the thing was to thick, so, rip the back board off and try again.
> Still was pain in the ass. The sensors still had issues with the cut out areas. Spent
> 3 hours sitting and waiting while they went at it over and over.
> So, what we've got is pretty darn good, but not perfect.
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> Perfect would involve stripping the foam core away and scanning the board itself.
> Actually, this might be possible without destroying the playfield.
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> The foamcore is glued down to the surface, and as it happens, one piece popped off
> cleanly.
> It may very well be possible to pull the foamcore off the board without doing any
> damage.
> I'll be looking into that, but since this is borrowed from a working machine, it's
> probably not gonna happen.
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> As for blacklight, I will be attempting some photos of the board both head on and
> back inside the cabinet, sitting on the mirror, and then back in its proper location.
> I'll do long exposure photos, without the bezel causing reflection. This should
> provide us with some reference material and perhaps something usable.
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> I leave it to MrDo! to work his blacklight voodoo on this piece.
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> Eventually, Mame might give us the ability to present the game on a slope as
> originally intended. My hope is that having the art finally in game will inspire
> others to push the graphics further. The latest addition of filters certainly is
> moving in that direction.
Very cool. Thank you for all your efforts!
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Re: Behold! New Bezels
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I've uploaded several pictures I took last night at different exposures of Video Pinball under black light.
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Re: Video Pinball under Blacklight
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#257485 - 06/15/11 06:09 PM
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> I've uploaded several pictures I took last night at different exposures of Video
> Pinball under black light.
Holy sh@t that looks good!
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> I've uploaded several pictures I took last night at different exposures of Video
> Pinball under black light.
Goal: Finish this by the end of the year.
If/when xioau2 submits something of better quality, I will gladly scrap my version, and replace it with his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t6XEnwxQg
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Re: Video for my reference
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#257609 - 06/16/11 10:40 PM
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> > I've uploaded several pictures I took last night at different exposures of Video
> > Pinball under black light.
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> Goal: Finish this by the end of the year.
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> If/when xioau2 submits something of better quality, I will gladly scrap my version,
> and replace it with his.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6t6XEnwxQg
Nice video. I'd love to play a real machine.
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