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Haze
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running of course MAME (illegally)
12/12/18 01:05 PM


> They also have roms which are not stated on the box. Free Games, or easter eggs ?
> Either way, hope MAME gets something from these OFFICIALLY released products. And a
> few boards which arnt emulated can be purchased.

As stated elsewhere it's MAME 0.139u1 based

MAME 0.139u1 can't be licensed for commercial use, as it predates the GPL changes over at 0.172. The old license includes a non-commercial use clause (and is problematic in various other ways for this kind of use too)

So once again, even after we've made it entirely possible for companies to build legal solutions based on MAME they decide that they the best thing to do is shit on the team from a great height and use a version they're not allowed to use because they either don't want to make the extra little effort to port such a version, or maybe spend a tiny bit more on hardware if it needs something other than the lowest end SoC from China.

I gave up trying to defend our position elsewhere, because was just being told that MAME has no rights because MAME is just emulating games made by other people etc. which is a ridiculous argument. Beyond that, they just argue that because the only 'license' page on mamedev.org states GPL it means they can apply that to every version that's available for download, even when it clearly doesn't mean that, and can't mean that. You have to follow whatever license is included in each case, the front pages are of course for the current versions.

at least outside of the arcade scene companies can get their licensing right, look at Sony with the Playstation Classic, say what you want about the product for performance / effort / hardware choice reasons (it isn't good) but at least they picked an emulator they could license (as it was GPL) and are even providing the full source + modifications as required by the GPL; just shows you what little effort is actually required to follow the rules.

as I said elsewhere too, I'm glad MAME is spreading its wings past the arcade scene, because the arcade scene, especially the way they abuse MAME like this, and continually belittle any actual recent achievements, or in this case the make out that the effort that went into relicensing everything properly etc. was pointless as MAME 'has no rights' is just plain toxic.

and yes, as Moogly states, the 'bonus ROMs' are no doubt copyright infringement too.

In other words, these products shouldn't even be on the shelves, at least not the ones using MAME, or the ones with 'extra' ROMs.







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Subject Posted by Posted on
* Arcade1Up Hacked, using usb soldered to board, running off course MAME Daveyuk 12/12/18 12:07 PM
. * running of course MAME (illegally) Haze  12/12/18 01:05 PM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) lharms  12/13/18 03:26 AM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) R. Belmont  12/13/18 08:29 PM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) jonwil  12/14/18 11:59 AM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) StilettoAdministrator  12/14/18 09:10 PM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) Haze  12/14/18 10:23 PM
. * Re: running of course MAME (illegally) MooglyGuy  12/14/18 12:41 PM
. * Re: Arcade1Up Hacked, using usb soldered to board, running off course MAME MooglyGuy  12/12/18 12:22 PM
. * Re: Arcade1Up Hacked, using usb soldered to board, running off course MAME Daveyuk  12/13/18 11:15 PM

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