MAMEWorld Forums - MAME Artwork: Official - Re: Proof of Concept

> I have been editing artworks for many years and I have never sold anything. I started
> making them for my personal use and decided to share them for free so that whoever
> wants and likes them can use them. As I said, I do not sell anything. In the lay
> files there are no credits because I write them from scratch and the artworks that I
> use are of different origins, mainly downloaded from your website, but I have never
> said they were mine.

Outrun is a perfect example of how you do not write them from scratch. As you needed to be able to have the animated shifter and start button in your artwork, you left all of that in there, and simply altered the lay file to use your new bezel artwork. And in all your files, you still leave the "gamename.lay" comment in the top of the file, which isn't necessary; it is just something I have always used on my end.

And the bezel artwork part; yes, you did the additional work of adding the "cabinet" elements around the bezel and marquee. But you would not have an Outrun file today of that quality, if you hadn't grabbed all the artwork from here. (Otherwise, I'm sure you would have created a file for Outrun of that quality much sooner than when it was released here in June).

You say "I have never said they were mine." *eyeroll*

By stripping out the credits, replacing it with a link to your website, and posting it on your Facebook page, with no other comments, you are implying that you did all the work.

> I also designed several types of arcade to adapt the monitor vertically and use my
> artworks. I don't sell arcade cabinets either. But it's easier to insult without
> knowing ...

My apologies then... 'cause when I go to your website, I see this comment at the bottom of the homepage:

"Y aquí estamos, tras varios años y diferentes diseños de artworks, he decidido crear esta web para compartir los VCabinet artworks que voy creando, además de diferentes versiones de MAME que modifico para usar en las VCabinet"

You are saying that you are creating artworks to use in the VCabinet. And on the hardware page, you show renders of the upright and bartop versions of the VCabinet.

I guess I misunderstood then... so you are saying that there is only one VCabinet in existence, and it's at your house? And rather than show pictures of the actual cabinet in your house, you simply show renders of it on your site. My bad for misconstruing that as getting people to ask you how to get one.

And in the pic from your Facebook below, the poll asking if you should sell plans for the VCabinet... that was just for fun, and you weren't actually planning on selling anything, right?

> If you check my post, you will see that I have been sharing my artworks for a long
> time, during which they have changed a lot but following the same idea and I have
> NEVER charged for anything, I have always shared them FREE OF CHARGE.

I never implied you you sold artwork. I'm fully aware of all the artwork you posted here. In 2012/2013. And after not posting here for over four years, you come in and reply to this thread "hey, my artwork already does that, come to my Facebook page and take a look."

> I will not go into insults or provocations, that already goes into the education of
> each.

So let me explain my issue a bit, if you seem "insulted." It is because of things like this that people don't contribute over here anymore. Go back to 2006... there was very little hi-res artwork floating around on the internet, then this project started. Multiple people together put in thousands of hours of their own time to build up the library that is now available here today, and you can see every one of their names on this page:

https://mrdo.mameworld.info/mame_artwork_thanks.php

Then... all of the "widescreen" people come around, to make artwork compatible with HyperSpin, Launchbox, Retroyuck, you, etc. Other people have YouTube channels dedicated to releasing artwork for MAME and the others above. And they all immediately thank each other when they borrow from one another, or thank ArcadeArtwork.org, who also, takes all the artwork from here and posts it there.

But if someone uses artwork from here... they don't say jack shit. That is a great big giant FUCK YOU to all the people that have put in time over here over the last 13-14 years.

(Disclaimer: Mr RetroLust and ArsInvictus are recent people who actually have credited and mentioned where they got their original art from).

And you are all nonchalant about it... "I never said it was mine." So you are saying if someone took your stuff, and posted it somewhere else, and did not even mention you, you would be completely okay with that? I can take your artwork now, post it on my page, and put my name to it?

And forego on giving me the speech about how since everything here is already available for free, I should have known things like this were going to happen. Duh... I've always known that, and accepted that it would happen, and continues to happen.

But for people to be so brazen to do it, then come and post here to bring attention to it, that is a giant slap in the face, like if someone went and posted on the official MAME forum to advertise a 60-in-1 PCB.

> Happy new year to all

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