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MAME and Sandy....better wait
#245211 - 01/31/11 08:51 PM
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in english.
[Re: Roman]
#245225 - 01/31/11 10:19 PM
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: Roman]
#245310 - 02/01/11 05:55 AM
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> If you think about buying a Sandybridge...better wait...core i 2000 got a hardware
> bug
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/I...te-1181172.html
> (German text though)
The story of my life, I was about to buy a modest i5 2300 upgrade kit tomorrow. T_T
Things like this happen when I'm assembling a new PC. It's like when planning on assembling my PIII found out that day all memory RAM prices went to the roof.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: BIOS-D]
#245311 - 02/01/11 06:49 AM
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> > If you think about buying a Sandybridge...better wait...core i 2000 got a hardware
> > bug
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> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/I...te-1181172.html
> > (German text though)
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> The story of my life, I was about to buy a modest i5 2300 upgrade kit tomorrow. T_T
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> Things like this happen when I'm assembling a new PC. It's like when planning on
> assembling my PIII found out that day all memory RAM prices went to the roof.
What worries me is what will happen with the bad sandy bridge chips which will be pulled and which Mainboard makers have loads of right now. They may not all get returned to Intel for destruction, and may end up in the hands of unscrupulous sellers and hence in cheaper motherboards in the coming months. Intel definitely needs to poke a software readable revision counter of some sort on silicon up a stepping, so people can weed out the bad ones.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: Roman]
#245334 - 02/01/11 11:20 AM
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It is a flaw in chipset, not the processor. Only the P67/H67 motherboards are affected. Processors are NOT affected.
The problem is in the SATAII controller ONLY, which has a chance of 5-15% of degrading performance depending on usage. It does NOT happen if you just use the SATAIII ports.
So, just use the SATAIII ports (which, for most users, are enough of them) for now and move to Z68 motherboard later. If you need more (SATAIII) ports, you can get a cheap PCI SATA controller card. It's a lot less hassle than returning your motherboard and waiting over a month for new fixed ones to arrive.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
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#245389 - 02/01/11 11:30 PM
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> The problem is in the SATAII controller ONLY, which has a chance of 5-15% of
> degrading performance depending on usage. It does NOT happen if you just use the
> SATAIII ports.
Yup, and on boards with add-on SATA controllers (which is most of them) you can use the add-on ports safely as well. I have an SSD and HDD connected to the SATAIII ports and my DVD and Blu-ray burners connected to an add-on controller on my ASUS P8P67 Deluxe, so I'm perfectly safe pending the recall.
And I get 150% in-game in Gauntlet Legends in the meantime ;-)
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
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#245397 - 02/02/11 12:20 AM
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How goes the OC'ing efforts or are you still at stock?
Had a chance to run against my benches? I'm curious how it would do at the same clock (3.6).
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
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#245400 - 02/02/11 12:26 AM
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> How goes the OC'ing efforts or are you still at stock?
ASUS's utilities and EFI BIOS have the awesome property of not actually telling you how fast you are running, but I think it's in the vicinity of 4.5 GHz.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: R. Belmont]
#245402 - 02/02/11 12:43 AM
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Can you just run CPU-Z on it?
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: R. Belmont]
#245407 - 02/02/11 12:57 AM
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> Yup, and on boards with add-on SATA controllers (which is most of them) you can use
> the add-on ports safely as well. I have an SSD and HDD connected to the SATAIII ports
> and my DVD and Blu-ray burners connected to an add-on controller on my ASUS P8P67
> Deluxe, so I'm perfectly safe pending the recall.
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> And I get 150% in-game in Gauntlet Legends in the meantime ;-)
I ordered one of the cheaper boards (Biostar TP67B+) because it was on a deal and that I want to move to Z68 later on (because of QuickSync). Besides, I don't plan on using an SSD but even if I do, I'd move over the (B,C,D)DROM to SATAII port because that is hardly ever used so its failure rate should be very low.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: Smitdogg]
#245433 - 02/02/11 07:43 AM
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> Can you just run CPU-Z on it?
Yes & No, CPU-Z will only tell you what the current clock speed of the CPU. On the Sandybridge CPUs you overclock the turbo mode, so if there is no load on the CPU it will clock itself back to ~1.6ghz, put load on the CPU with CPU-Z open and you can see CPU crank up to what ever the overclock speed is.
It's kind of a nice feature, stops the CPU from being stress out unless it's under heavy load,and cuts down of the power usage.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: taz-nz]
#245434 - 02/02/11 07:45 AM
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But can't you just keep it running while running MAME in a window next to it?
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: Smitdogg]
#245435 - 02/02/11 07:52 AM
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> But can't you just keep it running while running MAME in a window next to it?
Yeah that should work, presuming your not running full screen.
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: R. Belmont]
#245436 - 02/02/11 07:56 AM
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> > The problem is in the SATAII controller ONLY, which has a chance of 5-15% of
> > degrading performance depending on usage. It does NOT happen if you just use the
> > SATAIII ports.
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> Yup, and on boards with add-on SATA controllers (which is most of them) you can use
> the add-on ports safely as well. I have an SSD and HDD connected to the SATAIII ports
> and my DVD and Blu-ray burners connected to an add-on controller on my ASUS P8P67
> Deluxe, so I'm perfectly safe pending the recall.
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> And I get 150% in-game in Gauntlet Legends in the meantime ;-)
Can I ask what you get in game in Gradius4 ?
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Re: MAME and Sandy....better wait
[Re: taz-nz]
#245470 - 02/02/11 10:21 PM
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> > Can you just run CPU-Z on it?
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> Yes & No, CPU-Z will only tell you what the current clock speed of the CPU. On the
> Sandybridge CPUs you overclock the turbo mode, so if there is no load on the CPU it
> will clock itself back to ~1.6ghz, put load on the CPU with CPU-Z open and you can
> see CPU crank up to what ever the overclock speed is.
CPU-Z also isn't quite stable on Sandy yet. My brother has his around 4.6 GHz and CPU-Z tends to read random numbers north of 5 GHz, which we know isn't right.
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