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Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack
#300680 - 12/15/12 11:45 PM


Hello,
Some days ago, together with fellow programmer Aladar I have released a full ROMhack of the Bubble Bobble coin-op.
I'm confident many people here (where else?) may enjoy it.
It's called...



Why "Lost Cave"? Because it gathers together the best 100 levels created in-house by Taito for its home/handheld conversions of the popular Bubble Bobble coin-op. It's a huge mash-up which mixes NES, Game Boy, Sega Master System and Game Boy Color exclusive levels and injects them in the original arcade ROMs, creating a fresh gameplay experience while retaining the good, tight, unsurpassed feeling of the arcade machine. The most of the work was actually tweaking those console levels in order to behave consistently inside the coin-op structure.



There's a lot of more stuff inside it. Fully renewed bonus items (coming from various ports and episodes of the saga), a huge new ending screen, new secret rooms. Also, your old secret codes won't work, you'll need to discover the new ones. There are also huge holes and other features which needed proper Z80 ASM hacking by Aladar (don't watch me - I'm the gfx/tweak/level designer)



You can download the patch, and read more about it, here:

lostcave.wordpress.com


The patch is meant to work with the bublbobl set under reasonably recent versions of MAME (and, thru' minor fiddling, with pre-2005 versions too - we're working on that).

Obviously non-profit, totally made by fans for fans, Lost Cave is also a celebration of the late Fukio Mitsuji, who died - at 48 - four years ago (on december 11th, that's why we released Lost Cave on that day). Your feedback is precious and welcome, both bug-wise and design-wise:)

Thank you!

Bisboch

PS Because of CRC checks, the official command-line version of MAME really needs to run the patched game from command-line (ie "mame.exe bublbobl", not from the internal menu) otherwise it won't work. UI versions such as MAMEUIFX don't have this 'issue'.

Edit by Mr. Do : Moved here due to newsworthiness

Edited by Mr. Do (12/16/12 12:47 AM)



A Bubble Bobble AC full level hack (and more!) by Bisboch and Aladar: The Lost Cave! Released December 11th, 2012.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300682 - 12/16/12 12:10 AM


... This... this is quite a thing you've done here...

Congratulations.

(Pity MisfitMAME is no longer updated...)

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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300685 - 12/16/12 12:44 AM Attachment: bb_cave_crc.png 103 KB (3 downloads)


Very VERY cool

Makes it a brand new game, yet not, with all of these levels I've played back in the past, all mushed together.

Did I say it's cool?!



Outstanding job here.

Here's a screenshot of the CRCs, as a double-check for anyone that wants to make sure they patched everything correctly.

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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300689 - 12/16/12 01:47 AM


Very nice job you have done.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300690 - 12/16/12 01:58 AM


Great job.

Fantastic addition to one of the best arcade games ever



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300692 - 12/16/12 02:13 AM


bisboch, many thanks for your efforts, when my brother visits in a few weeks we will both play this game together, all 100 levels like we did in the past as kids with the original bubble bobble

cheers, we salute you!

ps. what are your new hidden game secrets? give us some clues plz...

;]



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300695 - 12/16/12 03:01 AM


I consider a version for MisfitMame?
Or will release in the next version of MAME?

Thank you!



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Stiletto]
#300703 - 12/16/12 04:31 AM


> ... This... this is quite a thing you've done here...
>
> Congratulations.
>
> (Pity MisfitMAME is no longer updated...)
>
> - Stiletto

We don't need that. We just need someone make a MAME with Bubble Bobble Lost Cave added. The only build that will have it.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Dullaron]
#300706 - 12/16/12 06:57 AM


> > ... This... this is quite a thing you've done here...
> >
> > Congratulations.
> >
> > (Pity MisfitMAME is no longer updated...)
> >
> > - Stiletto
>
> We just need someone make a MAME with Bubble Bobble Lost Cave
> added. The only build that will have it.

We don't need that either. I'm getting tired of seeing hundreds and hundreds of builds around.

Just dump it in software folder and hope MAME knows what to do with it.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300707 - 12/16/12 07:08 AM


Beyond awesome... thanks!



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: B2K24]
#300711 - 12/16/12 08:35 AM


> > > ... This... this is quite a thing you've done here...
> > >
> > > Congratulations.
> > >
> > > (Pity MisfitMAME is no longer updated...)
> > >
> > > - Stiletto
> >
> > We just need someone make a MAME with Bubble Bobble Lost Cave
> > added. The only build that will have it.
>
> We don't need that either. I'm getting tired of seeing hundreds and hundreds of
> builds around.
>
> Just dump it in software folder and hope MAME knows what to do with it.

Works.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300713 - 12/16/12 09:44 AM


Really nice and entertaining. I added support for it in my MAMEUIFX from the next release. Obviously the patched ROM has ben re-called BUBLCAVE.ZIP due to its clone nature and to avoid conflicts with the original set.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Mr. Do]
#300721 - 12/16/12 03:06 PM


Please someone point me to the right direction - where to look for the already patched rom ?! (I am too lazy, or stupid, or illiterate... ...call me what You want)
Thank You



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: CTOJAH]
#300725 - 12/16/12 03:49 PM


> Please someone point me to the right direction - where to look for the already
> patched rom ?! (I am too lazy, or stupid, or illiterate... ...call me what You want)
> Thank You

Rom requests involving commerical roms are forbidden!

GET OUT OF LINE!
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300726 - 12/16/12 04:54 PM


Very cool. I added it to FB Alpha ready for the next release.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Lewis King]
#300733 - 12/16/12 07:47 PM


> I consider a version for MisfitMame?
> Or will release in the next version of MAME?
>
> Thank you!

Won't be in mame since it was never released/used in arcades



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#300740 - 12/16/12 09:07 PM


> Hello,
> Some days ago, together with fellow programmer Aladar I have released a full ROMhack
> of the Bubble Bobble coin-op.
> I'm confident many people here (where else?) may enjoy it.
> It's called...
>
>
> Why "Lost Cave"? Because it gathers together the best 100 levels created in-house by
> Taito for its home/handheld conversions of the popular Bubble Bobble coin-op. It's a
> huge mash-up which mixes NES, Game Boy, Sega Master System and Game Boy Color
> exclusive levels and injects them in the original arcade ROMs, creating a fresh
> gameplay experience while retaining the good, tight, unsurpassed feeling of the
> arcade machine. The most of the work was actually tweaking those console levels in
> order to behave consistently inside the coin-op structure.
>
>
>
> There's a lot of more stuff inside it. Fully renewed bonus items (coming from various
> ports and episodes of the saga), a huge new ending screen, new secret rooms. Also,
> your old secret codes won't work, you'll need to discover the new ones. There are
> also huge holes and other features which needed proper Z80 ASM hacking by Aladar
> (don't watch me - I'm the gfx/tweak/level designer)
>
>
>
> You can download the patch, and read more about it, here:
>
> lostcave.wordpress.com
>
> The patch is meant to work with the bublbobl set under reasonably recent versions of
> MAME (and, thru' minor fiddling, with pre-2005 versions too - we're working on that).
>
>
> Obviously non-profit, totally made by fans for fans, Lost Cave is also a celebration
> of the late Fukio Mitsuji, who died - at 48 - four years ago (on december 11th,
> that's why we released Lost Cave on that day). Your feedback is precious and welcome,
> both bug-wise and design-wise
>
> Thank you!
>
> Bisboch
>
> PS Because of CRC checks, the official command-line version of MAME really needs to
> run the patched game from command-line (ie "mame.exe bublbobl", not from the internal
> menu) otherwise it won't work. UI versions such as MAMEUIFX don't have this 'issue'.
>
> Edit by Mr. Do : Moved here due to newsworthiness

Are you gonna make Bubble Bobble vs Capcom next?



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Master O]
#300742 - 12/16/12 09:23 PM



> Are you gonna make Bubble Bobble vs Capcom next?

I think not Master O, because if you need it so badly use MUGEN.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Lewis King]
#300743 - 12/16/12 10:49 PM


> > Are you gonna make Bubble Bobble vs Capcom next?
>
> I think not Master O, because if you need it so badly use MUGEN.

I was joking!



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Naoki]
#300746 - 12/17/12 12:15 AM


> Won't be in mame since it was never released/used in arcades

+1



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Master O]
#300751 - 12/17/12 02:10 AM


> > > Are you gonna make Bubble Bobble vs Capcom next?
> >
> > I think not Master O, because if you need it so badly use MUGEN.
>
> I was joking!

Me too so chill out...



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Treble Winner]
#300754 - 12/17/12 03:34 AM


Hello,
we just want to say a big big THANK YOU to everybody. Feedback has been overwhelming, way over any expectations. Some people have already found the new secret codes, other players asked for information about the person in the first secret level, one smart guy found a silly waterflow behaviour that sometimes occurs in round 60 (similar to the one in rnd. 97 of the original coin-op, but nastier).

For this reason tomorrow we'll release a 1.1 patch, sorry about the inconvenience. I'll send it to Mamesick and Treble Winner as soon as possible (guys, you really made this sunday one of our sunniest sundays ever!)

Thanks again. Really.
B.



A Bubble Bobble AC full level hack (and more!) by Bisboch and Aladar: The Lost Cave! Released December 11th, 2012.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: CTOJAH]
#300759 - 12/17/12 09:16 AM


> Please someone point me to the right direction - where to look for the already
> patched rom ?! (I am too lazy, or stupid, or illiterate... ...call me what You want)
> Thank You

Use the ips XP tool. This is what I use to patch those. Easy to use. Also make a new rom folder call hack and then drop those ROM's set in there. Make sure that the cfg and nvram are clean out before running the game. Note: Don't have extra ROM's in the zip because it will screw up the changes. Just use the ones that it need to run correctly. =)



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Lewis King]
#300773 - 12/17/12 02:56 PM





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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: addie]
#300774 - 12/17/12 03:54 PM


Now that is funny.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: addie]
#300779 - 12/17/12 05:17 PM


How many accounts are required to post a simple post just to annoy other people, only to be banned from here?
You make other people incompetent.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#301158 - 12/22/12 01:35 AM


Hi!
Well, it took a little bit more, but here it is.
Version 1.1 of Bubble Bobble Lost Cave!

http://lostcave.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/lost-cave-1-1-patch-released/

What's new?

v1.1 - December 21th, 2012 - Dedicated to all Lost Cave fans!
- Introducing Aladar's self-patching program. Everything's easier now!
- Fixed level design bug in level 60 (water? why water? )
- Fixed platforms and airflows in levels 11, 27, 63, 68, 97 and more
- Credits for the "Super" good ending updated

So it's mostly bugfixing and making patching easy. This is what 1.0 should have been, so you may delete your 1.0 version as well and just keep this one:)

Thank you for your attention! Have a nice Xmas time.

B.



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#301160 - 12/22/12 01:53 AM



> What's new?
> - Introducing Aladar's self-patching program. Everything's easier now ! ...

Thank You so much & Merry Christmas 2U !



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#301163 - 12/22/12 02:27 AM


thanks a lot for the wonderful work, bisboch!!

i'm long-time Bubble Bobble fan, so Lost Cave was an awesome surprise for me.



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Thanks. new [Re: bisboch]
#301179 - 12/22/12 09:59 AM


=)



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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: Lewis King]
#301186 - 12/22/12 04:18 PM


> Or will release in the next version of MAME?

if it's burned to real coin-op sometimes somewhere (stated goal of the project), maybe it could be finally added to official MAME.



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The “popping enemies” combo new [Re: bisboch]
#304220 - 02/13/13 06:36 AM


http://lostcave.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/the-popping-enemies-combo/



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Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: bisboch]
#304221 - 02/13/13 06:36 AM


http://lostcave.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/therealthing/



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: abelenki]
#304222 - 02/13/13 06:39 AM


seeing Bubble Bobble Lost Cave running on real coin-op, maybe it can be added to official MAME now?



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: abelenki]
#304232 - 02/13/13 12:50 PM


> seeing Bubble Bobble Lost Cave running on real coin-op, maybe it can be added to
> official MAME now?

There is a MAMETiny on that website that have it. I download it last night.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: Dullaron]
#304236 - 02/13/13 03:10 PM


> There is a MAMETiny on that website that have it. I download it last night.

why do you think i didn't play that game already? basically, i'm playing it from the day of its release.

the questions was if it can be added to official MAME after it was ROM-swapped on original Bubble Bobble board.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: abelenki]
#304243 - 02/13/13 06:23 PM


A game generally has to be commercially sold (bootleg or not) or be seen in some arcades to go in mame. I don't know the official rule but it's not burn roms and take picture. People have rom swapped Dodonpachi Arrange and Ketsui Arrange 100X over on real boards and they are still just Misfit material.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: abelenki]
#304247 - 02/13/13 08:26 PM


> the questions was if it can be added to official MAME after it was ROM-swapped on
> original Bubble Bobble board.

Nice try, but no. The only possible exception is if you can prove that Kyle Hodgetts made it, because KH is the man.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: Smitdogg]
#304264 - 02/14/13 05:17 AM


> A game generally has to be commercially sold (bootleg or not) or be seen in some
> arcades to go in mame. I don't know the official rule but it's not burn roms and take
> picture. People have rom swapped Dodonpachi Arrange and Ketsui Arrange 100X over on
> real boards and they are still just Misfit material.

Agreed.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: Dullaron]
#304475 - 02/17/13 12:10 PM


> Agreed.

sorry, but no one is interested in your opinion, nor in your useless posts.



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Re: Lost Cave running on the original coin-op hardware!? new [Re: abelenki]
#304476 - 02/17/13 12:16 PM


> > Agreed.
>
> sorry, but no one is interested in your opinion, nor in your useless posts.




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Re: Bubble Bobble Lost Cave - a full BB coin-op 100 level hack new [Re: bisboch]
#305187 - 03/02/13 03:51 PM


we could finally complete 50 levels without loosing a life and received the final secret warp door to 70th level.

no cheats, of course. just straight two player gameplay.

so we saw all secret rooms. anyway, i can't decipher the 40th secret room start screen code which leads to super game.

awesome game!! once again, thanks for the great work, bisboch!!


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