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Questions about playback/record and options
#329831 - 08/13/14 02:04 AM
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Hello.
-If you record a game in the newer mame editions, this will always have the name .inp
But how can I play someone's playback, since its impossible to rename his playback as .inp ??
-My resolution is bad in any edition I try. Our friend Ciro told me to tick the Use Direct3D option and
now resolution is good. Shouldnt this option be ticked by default? What about the other settings in this tab?
The newer editions of mame have no options(or they are hidden somewhere). How can I tick Use Direct3D option??
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329832 - 08/13/14 02:30 AM
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I can't tell what you're using there. Perhaps it's UIFX?
You should consider baseline MAME then create a mame.ini by executing "mame64 -cc" and you'll see D3d is automatically defaulted.
As far as .inp files go, I personally don't do much recording with MAME and when I do it's in AVI which then I toss at Ripbot264 to make a MP4 or w/e
Some old docs say you can playback .imp by executing
mame -playback .inp
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: B2K24]
#329833 - 08/13/14 02:40 AM
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We're talking for latest wolfmame editions, like 154.
I've heard about the command prompt, but I can't make it work.
If I put the MAME folder in "C" its
C:/MAME/mame gamename -playback filename
right?
Where must be the inp file? In the .inp folder?
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329834 - 08/13/14 02:49 AM
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The inp folder seems like the best decision.
Try
mame -playback filename.inp
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: B2K24]
#329836 - 08/13/14 02:59 AM
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I receive
INPVIEW: using layout type 'standard'
Fatal error: Failed to open file for playback (scr/emu/inptport.c:4413)
What about my other question, how can I see the options in the latest mames, since there's no menu??
First of all I want fix the resolution, by ticking the Direct3D option.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329838 - 08/13/14 03:24 AM
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Sorry I had forgotten about WolfMAME and it's replay system with the .inp files and such. I wasn't even aware that it still gets updated.
My replies didn't make sense because I thought you were talking about different issues entirely.
I guess I been a filthy casual for far too long 
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329841 - 08/13/14 05:01 AM
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> Hello.
>
> -If you record a game in the newer mame editions, this will always have the name .inp
> But how can I play someone's playback, since its impossible to rename his playback as
> .inp ??
Since about 0.107, MAME (and WolfMAME) doesn't care about the extension of an INP file. Just pass MAME the filename, and it should work. Do note that if you're using the playback.bat batch file included with WolfMAME, then you'll want to leave off the .inp part of the filename, the batch file will add it for you.
Either way, there is no reason why you can't rename an INP file.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329843 - 08/13/14 06:20 AM
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> Since about 0.107, MAME (and WolfMAME) doesn't care about the extension of an INP
> file. Just pass MAME the filename, and it should work. Do note that if you're using
> the playback.bat batch file included with WolfMAME, then you'll want to leave off the
> .inp part of the filename, the batch file will add it for you.
> Either way, there is no reason why you can't rename an INP file.
The file with the name ".inp" is not renameable, because has only ending 
Suppose you have a playback "mahlemiut.inp" created by Wolfmame 154 and you want to see it. What will you do?
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329847 - 08/13/14 08:03 AM
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> > Since about 0.107, MAME (and WolfMAME) doesn't care about the extension of an INP
> > file. Just pass MAME the filename, and it should work. Do note that if you're using
> > the playback.bat batch file included with WolfMAME, then you'll want to leave off
> the
> > .inp part of the filename, the batch file will add it for you.
> > Either way, there is no reason why you can't rename an INP file.
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> The file with the name ".inp" is not renameable, because has only ending
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> Suppose you have a playback "mahlemiut.inp" created by Wolfmame 154 and you want to
> see it. What will you do?
I don't use the interface, so I really cannot help you about the options there
but if you read the config.txt documentation that comes with the emulator, you will see that from command line you just have to type
Code:
mame gamename -playback mahlemiut
or
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mame gamename -playback mahlemiut.inp
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329854 - 08/13/14 11:17 AM
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: CiroConsentino]
#329872 - 08/13/14 09:48 PM
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This guide might be able to help.http://replay.marpirc.net/guides/wingui.htm
go to main menu File and select "Play Game Input file"... select the file and game
should start.
Newer editions of Mame don't work like this.
You can only run "playback.bat", which will play that ".inp" file.
You cannot select File-Playback input from the main menu, as happens in older editions
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: etabeta]
#329873 - 08/13/14 09:55 PM
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Quote:
but if you read the config.txt documentation that comes with the emulator, you will
see that from command line you just have to type
mame gamename -playback mahlemiut
or
mame gamename -playback mahlemiut.inp
We talked about command line too,
What I receive is
INPVIEW: using layout type 'standard'
Fatal error: Failed to open file for playback (scr/emu/inptport.c:4413)
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329874 - 08/13/14 10:30 PM
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: CiroConsentino]
#329876 - 08/13/14 11:01 PM
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329881 - 08/13/14 11:23 PM
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> where did you get this version ? I went to Wolfmame download page
> http://wolfmame.marpirc.net and there is no UI version of WolfMAME, only cmdline
> version.
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> Go to marp hiscore board
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> http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?&...mp;per_table=50
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> and download latest wolfmame version, 153 or 154(right side, click "get MAME").
Yeah. There's no UI version available there, dodie. Anyways, researching some would've answered all your questions, but perhaps the error. That may be due to your display settings - whether you're running scanline effects, resolution you're running, etc - being different from the machine of the source inp file.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329883 - 08/13/14 11:35 PM
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> where did you get this version ? I went to Wolfmame download page
> http://wolfmame.marpirc.net and there is no UI version of WolfMAME, only cmdline
> version.
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> Go to marp hiscore board
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> http://replay.marpirc.net/index.cgi?&...mp;per_table=50
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> and download latest wolfmame version, 153 or 154(right side, click "get MAME").
Which are exactly the same as the versions on http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/ (since MARP links directly to them). There is no frontend (other than a very basic Tcl/Tk one that I wrote and no one cares about).
If you're using playback.bat to play back an INP, the syntax is:
playback gamename INPfilename [any extra options you want]
The INP filename should not include the .inp extension, the batch file does that for you.
If you're not using playback.bat (which is entirely possible):
mame gamename -playback INPfilename [extra options]
In this case, you must add the .inp extension, as MAME does *not* do it for you. And it will help to remove any NVRAM/DIF files relating to the game you're playing (again, this is something that playback.bat does for you).
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: Traso]
#329884 - 08/13/14 11:37 PM
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> Yeah. There's no UI version available there, dodie. Anyways, researching some
> would've answered all your questions, but perhaps the error. That may be due to your
> display settings - whether you're running scanline effects, resolution you're
> running, etc - being different from the machine of the source inp file.
Display has nothing to do with playback.
Lets now focus to record/playback. Are you able to watch those playbacks?
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329888 - 08/14/14 01:10 AM
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My friend,
in older wolfmames you could give any name in your inp.
Now if you want to record a game you have to click record.bat, choose a game from the list, play, and your recording will be a strange ".inp" file.
If you want to watch your recording then you click playback.bat, choose the game from the list, and mame will play that ".inp" file.
All these are too weird. Is there any other way, easier?
And where are the Options? Hidden somewhere?
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If you're using playback.bat to play back an INP, the syntax is:
playback gamename INPfilename [any extra options you want]
The INP filename should not include the .inp extension, the batch file does that for you.
The only way I know to use the playback.bat is double left click
How shall I use it in the way you say?
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If you're not using playback.bat (which is entirely possible):
mame gamename -playback INPfilename [extra options]
In this case, you must add the .inp extension, as MAME does *not* do it for you. And
it will help to remove any NVRAM/DIF files relating to the game you're playing
Again, plz write the exact command. You 're talking for command prompt, right?
Lets get the first game in list, Pollux via Wolfmame154. What do I have to type in order to watch pollux.inp?
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329890 - 08/14/14 01:47 AM
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> My friend,
> in older wolfmames you could give any name in your inp.
> Now if you want to record a game you have to click record.bat, choose a game from the
> list, play, and your recording will be a strange ".inp" file.
> If you want to watch your recording then you click playback.bat, choose the game from
> the list, and mame will play that ".inp" file.
> All these are too weird. Is there any other way, easier?
> And where are the Options? Hidden somewhere?
>
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> If you're using playback.bat to play back an INP, the syntax is:
> playback gamename INPfilename [any extra options you want]
> The INP filename should not include the .inp extension, the batch file does that for
> you.
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> The only way I know to use the playback.bat is double left click
> How shall I use it in the way you say?
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> If you're not using playback.bat (which is entirely possible):
> mame gamename -playback INPfilename [extra options]
> In this case, you must add the .inp extension, as MAME does *not* do it for you. And
> it will help to remove any NVRAM/DIF files relating to the game you're playing
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> Again, plz write the exact command. You 're talking for command prompt, right?
> Lets get the first game in list, Pollux via Wolfmame154. What do I have to type in
> order to watch pollux.inp?
Yes, record.bat and playback.bat are designed to run from the command prompt.
If you have pollux.inp in your INP folder (create a folder called INP if one is not there) then enter this on the commandline.
First step is to open the command prompt, and go to the folder where the MAME executable is located:
cd \wolfmame\154 (this is an example, replace the path with the path to mame.exe and playback.bat on your system, with a leading '\')
Then play it back:
playback pollux pollux (you can add any extra options you want on the end if you want or need to)
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329891 - 08/14/14 02:00 AM
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> First step is to open the command prompt, and go to the folder where the MAME
> executable is located:
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> cd \wolfmame\154 (this is an example, replace the path with the path to mame.exe and
> playback.bat on your system, with a leading '\')
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> Then play it back:
> playback pollux pollux (you can add any extra options you want on the end if you want
> or need to)
Plz write the exact command(MAME folder is in C), these 2 lines have no sense to me.
PS. The extra option I need is Use Direct3D, otherwise my resolution is bad.
PS2. If I write in command prompt C:/MAME/mame.exe [gamename] suppose the game will run, right? Instead of that I have the list of files missing... Although I have the game's rom.
Edited by xess (08/14/14 02:27 AM)
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command line
[Re: xess]
#329898 - 08/14/14 04:01 AM
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> PS. The extra option I need is Use Direct3D, otherwise my resolution is bad.
> PS2. If I write in command prompt C:/MAME/mame.exe [gamename] suppose the game will
> run, right? Instead of that I have the list of files missing... Although I have the
> game's rom.
Hold shift while right-clicking your MAME folder, then click where it says "Open Command Window Here".
Then you don't have to add the path to MAME (or playback.bat) to your commands.
S
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329899 - 08/14/14 04:03 AM
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> Plz write the exact command(MAME folder is in C), these 2 lines have no sense to me.
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> PS. The extra option I need is Use Direct3D, otherwise my resolution is bad.
> PS2. If I write in command prompt C:/MAME/mame.exe [gamename] suppose the game will
> run, right? Instead of that I have the list of files missing... Although I have the
> game's rom.
cd \mame
playback pollux pollux -video d3d
Sounds like you will need to set up the rompath also. If you enter 'mame -cc' then MAME will create a default mame.ini containing default options, which you can edit in a text editor (Notepad will do fine). Fine the rompath entry, and change its setting from 'roms' to whatever folder it is that you have stored your ROMs. You can also edit the video setting to 'd3d' so you don't have to add '-video d3d' every time.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329919 - 08/14/14 07:59 PM
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cd \mame
playback pollux pollux -video d3d
Says
"The system cannot find the file specified"
And also that one file was moved. Which file?
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Sounds like you will need to set up the rompath also. If you enter 'mame -cc' then MAME will create a default mame.ini containing default options, which you can edit in a text editor (Notepad will do fine). Fine the rompath entry, and change its setting from 'roms' to whatever folder it is that you have stored your ROMs.
I've made a folder called "roms" and placed the roms there, as usual. Works if I double click playback.bat, but seems not in command prompt.
Yes, a mame.ini file was created.
The mame.ini is a notepad itself, so I just have to change some values and save?
Fine? You mean find. Says "rompath roms" 
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edit the video setting to 'd3d' so you don't have to add '-video d3d' every time.
Looks like Direct3D is off by default, thats not good because I have bad resolution. Does this refers to all mame users?
Plz tell me how to have d3d always on.
I searched Mame.ini, I found
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video d3d
and
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
d3dversion 9
filter 1
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329927 - 08/15/14 12:52 AM
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> I've made a folder called "roms" and placed the roms there, as usual. Works if I
> double click playback.bat, but seems not in command prompt.
> Yes, a mame.ini file was created.
> The mame.ini is a notepad itself, so I just have to change some values and save?
> Fine? You mean find. Says "rompath roms"
Yes, this is the default path to find ROMs. If your ROMs are in a subfolder from mame.exe named 'roms' then you don't need to change it. Otherwise, change 'roms' to the full pathname for the folder containing your ROMs (eg: c:\mame\roms)
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> edit the video setting to 'd3d' so you don't have to add '-video d3d' every time.
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> Looks like Direct3D is off by default, thats not good because I have bad resolution.
> Does this refers to all mame users?
> Plz tell me how to have d3d always on.
> I searched Mame.ini, I found
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> # WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
> #
> video d3d
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> and
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> # DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
> #
> d3dversion 9
> filter 1
That would suggest that D3D *is* on. d3dversion just determines the D3D version to use v8 or v9. 9 is the normal value. filter determines whether or not bilinear filtering is applied to the video output. Set that to 0 if you like sharp pixels.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329935 - 08/15/14 02:55 AM
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After mame.ini was created and the advise of our friend Sune (Hold shift while right-clicking your MAME folder, then click where it says "Open Command Window Here") I' m able to run the playback, but not all the times. Although my mame folder is in the right path-C, sometimes command prompt insist that The system cannot find the file specified... Really weird.
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Yes, this is the default path to find ROMs. If your ROMs are in a subfolder from mame.exe named 'roms' then you don't need to change it. Otherwise, change 'roms' to
the full pathname for the folder containing your ROMs (eg: c:\mame\roms)
The newer wolfmame editions have no "roms" folder, as you know. When we unzip mame's installation file we see no roms folder, no inp folder. I always make a "roms" folder myself. Yes, c:\mame\roms. So I wonder whats wrong
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I searched Mame.ini, I found
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video d3d
and
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
d3dversion 9
That would suggest that D3D *is* on. d3dversion just determines the D3D version to
use v8 or v9. 9 is the normal value.
You mean that these are the right settings for Direct3D on? Ok.
Futhermore, I have a couple of requisite questions
- With which command can I record my gaming, and give the name I want? Because if I record via record.bat I only get an ".inp" file.
No wlf file any more?
- Will I always have that nvram folder which I have to delete? In wolfmame106 there is no such problem.
- How do I activate F10 function during playback? (fast forward)
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329956 - 08/15/14 09:13 AM
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> The newer wolfmame editions have no "roms" folder, as you know. When we unzip mame's
> installation file we see no roms folder, no inp folder. I always make a "roms" folder
> myself. Yes, c:\mame\roms. So I wonder whats wrong
>
> You mean that these are the right settings for Direct3D on? Ok.
Yes.
> Futhermore, I have a couple of requisite questions
>
> - With which command can I record my gaming, and give the name I want? Because if I
> record via record.bat I only get an ".inp" file.
> No wlf file any more?
record gamename INPfilename [extra options]
eg: record pollux pollux (in other words, the syntax is exactly the same as for playback.bat)
No, no .wlf file is produced anymore.
> - Will I always have that nvram folder which I have to delete? In wolfmame106 there
> is no such problem.
record.bat and playback.bat handles this by setting the nvram_directory option to NUL for you. This means it will not read or write any NVRAM files. You can also set the option to NUL in mame.ini, if you so wish.
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> - How do I activate F10 function during playback? (fast forward)
By pressing F10. This will switch off speed throttling. Works the same as it did in 0.106.
You can also hold Insert (this function is what is actually called "fast forward"), to both unthrottle and set frameskip to the maximum, just for the duration you hold the key down.
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Re: command line
[Re: Sune]
#329968 - 08/15/14 08:04 PM
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> Hold shift while right-clicking your MAME folder, then click where it says "Open
> Command Window Here".
>
> S
Doh. I didna noo that!
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329969 - 08/15/14 08:07 PM
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> By pressing F10. This will switch off speed throttling. Works the same as it did in 0.106. You can also hold Insert (this function is what is actually called "fast forward"), to both unthrottle and set frameskip to the maximum, just for the duration you hold the key down.
Dude, you're being quite generous.....
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#329982 - 08/15/14 10:17 PM
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record gamename INPfilename [extra options]
eg: record pollux pollux (in other words, the syntax is exactly the same as for
playback.bat)
Ok, this works.
About extra options can you type more than one?
But you can also set those options in mame.ini, right?
Joystick is on by default, and you told me how to enable direct3d. Which else extra option would be useful?
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record.bat and playback.bat handles this by setting the nvram_directory option to NUL
for you. This means it will not read or write any NVRAM files. You can also set the
option to NUL in mame.ini, if you so wish.
Why the NVRAM folder exists for?
If NVRAM is useless, I'd like to disable it from mame.ini
I searched and found
nvram_directory...............nvram
So I make it
nvram_directory...............NULL ?
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By pressing F10. This will switch off speed throttling. Works the same as it did in 0.106.
You can also hold Insert (this function is what is actually called "fast forward"),
F10 is not working, thats why I asked you.
There is no 'insert' button in my keyboard, is there some other similar button?
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#329987 - 08/16/14 12:30 AM
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> Ok, this works.
> About extra options can you type more than one?
> But you can also set those options in mame.ini, right?
> Joystick is on by default, and you told me how to enable direct3d. Which else extra
> option would be useful?
The batch files will allow you to enter up to about 8 extra parameters. Various options are explained in docs\config.txt or you can list them by using mame -showconfig
> record.bat and playback.bat handles this by setting the nvram_directory option to NUL
> for you. This means it will not read or write any NVRAM files. You can also set the
> option to NUL in mame.ini, if you so wish.
>
>
> Why the NVRAM folder exists for?
> If NVRAM is useless, I'd like to disable it from mame.ini
> I searched and found
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> nvram_directory...............nvram
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> So I make it
> nvram_directory...............NULL ?
No, NUL
NUL is essentially the big black hole of nothingness.
> F10 is not working, thats why I asked you.
> There is no 'insert' button in my keyboard, is there some other similar button?
Check the Input (General) > User Interface menu. It should be mapped to F10 by default.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#330008 - 08/16/14 08:24 AM
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Ok, f10 didnt work in a specific game only.
Well, I now play-record-playback properly via command prompt .
When I give the command game starts but in the black window its written
"The system cannot find the file specified" 3 times. Also that one file was removed.
I guess they do not mean something.
So, my queries was resolved. Your answers was useful. Thanks for your valuable help 
Sune also
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: xess]
#330010 - 08/16/14 10:11 AM
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> When I give the command game starts but in the black window its written
> "The system cannot find the file specified" 3 times. Also that one file was removed.
> I guess they do not mean something.
The batch files move/rename .cfg, .hi (not used these days, but there just in case), .nv (not necessary also, nvram is now stored per-device, with no extension, -nvram_directory NUL covers this now), and .dif files. This is to reduce the possible of INPs losing sync, so that games always start in the same state. Any files moved/renamed are restored when exiting MAME. You can safely ignore the messages.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: mahlemiut]
#330014 - 08/16/14 01:34 PM
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Also make sure you don't have missing ROMs for the game you want to play.
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Re: Questions about playback/record and options
[Re: CiroConsentino]
#330024 - 08/16/14 07:24 PM
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If files missing, game cannot run.
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