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What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7?
#337981 - 03/23/15 02:06 PM


i'm saving some money to buy a new dektop pc,after 6 years with a fourth-hand dual core quad,and i've been proposed this config on a shop near my house:

CPU INTEL CORE i5-4460 (Haswell) 3.2 GHz - 6MB
MOTHER BOARD ASUS H81M-E H81 LGA1150
HD SEAGATE SATA3 1TB GB 7200 RPM 64mb
SVGA ASUS NVIDIA GTX660 DC2OCPH 2GD5 2GB GDDR5
RAM DDR3 KINGSTON 8Gb 1600Mhz
MAST. SAMSUNG SATA MULTI DVD 24x16x DVD±R/DL
CASE M.TOWER COOLER MASTER "CMP 250" 500W

is that an optimal config for those 3d mame demanding games?or for dolphi nand pcsx2 emulators?



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Solstar]
#337987 - 03/23/15 06:25 PM


regarding the differences between i5 and i7 you can do some comparisions at cpu boss site, eg.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4460



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How much you payin? new [Re: grog]
#337988 - 03/23/15 11:03 PM


I've been looking through ebay and other places....



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Solstar]
#337996 - 03/24/15 03:23 AM


Depending on how fast your old CPU is, you might not see as big of a jump in performance as you expect. MAME pretty much scales directly with clock speed. What was the old CPU?



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Re: How much you payin? new [Re: Traso]
#338009 - 03/24/15 01:02 PM


> I've been looking through ebay and other places....

around 600 € but probably i can save some more if i go on amazon etc



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: krick]
#338010 - 03/24/15 01:02 PM


> Depending on how fast your old CPU is, you might not see as big of a jump in
> performance as you expect. MAME pretty much scales directly with clock speed. What
> was the old CPU?

i have a dual core quad with 2gb ram and games like cycber cycles and california speed are anything but "fast"... :\



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Solstar]
#338024 - 03/25/15 01:32 AM


Intel CPUs based on Haswell architecture will be massively faster than an old Core 2 quad in emulation performance, regardless of clock speed.

Just make sure you are getting Haswell (ix-4xxx) and not the older Ivy Bridge (ix-3xxx) or Sandy Bridge (ix-2xxx), because there is a large jump in emulation performance between Ivy and Haswell.

Dolphin benchmarks: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AunYlOAfGABxdFQ0UzJyTFAxbzZhYWtGcGwySlRFa1E#gid=0

Notice how Haswell, at various clock speeds, dominates the top of the chart, taking the top 7 spots. The Haswell i5 is around 3X faster than the Core 2 quad in Dolphin.

Also, you mentioned Cyber Cycles, so I tried it and it runs at full speed on my Haswell i7.



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: pat33999]
#338025 - 03/25/15 02:22 AM



> Also, you mentioned Cyber Cycles, so I tried it and it runs at full speed on my
> Haswell i7.


Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K @ 4.22 GHz - 130.65% average, attract mode with sound enabled.

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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Sune]
#338038 - 03/25/15 10:38 AM


> Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K @ 4.22 GHz - 130.65% average, attract mode with sound
> enabled.


Which version of MAME are you using, and what command line settings did you use? It would be interesting to see a direct comparison.

I found some benchmark info here on the forum, which led me to use this command line on MAME 0.159, 32-bit:

mame cybrcycc -bench 90 -verbose > bench.txt

Result: 183.52% on an i7-4790k 4GHz.



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: pat33999]
#338071 - 03/25/15 09:54 PM


> Intel CPUs based on Haswell architecture will be massively faster than an old Core 2
> quad in emulation performance, regardless of clock speed.
>
> Just make sure you are getting Haswell (ix-4xxx) and not the older Ivy Bridge
> (ix-3xxx) or Sandy Bridge (ix-2xxx), because there is a large jump in emulation
> performance between Ivy and Haswell.
>
> Dolphin benchmarks:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AunYlOAfGABxdFQ0UzJyTFAxbzZhYWtGcGwySlRFa1E#gid=0
>
> Notice how Haswell, at various clock speeds, dominates the top of the chart, taking
> the top 7 spots. The Haswell i5 is around 3X faster than the Core 2 quad in Dolphin.
>
> Also, you mentioned Cyber Cycles, so I tried it and it runs at full speed on my
> Haswell i7.

thanks for the comparison,it was very helpful and if i had any dobuts,that cyber cycles try you did just did the trick problem is to save some more for an i7



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Sune]
#338072 - 03/25/15 09:55 PM


> > Also, you mentioned Cyber Cycles, so I tried it and it runs at full speed on my
> > Haswell i7.
>
>
> Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K @ 4.22 GHz - 130.65% average, attract mode with sound
> enabled.
>
> S

opps i missed this.that's intersting as i could save some bucks there.how does Dolphion fares with this cpu you have?



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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: pat33999]
#338081 - 03/25/15 10:59 PM


> > Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K @ 4.22 GHz - 130.65% average, attract mode with sound
> > enabled.
>
>
> Which version of MAME are you using, and what command line settings did you use? It
> would be interesting to see a direct comparison.

latest MAME. I just left attract mode running unthrottled for a while, with attract sound enabled in test mode. HLSL is enabled, I don't think I've changed anything else from the defaults.

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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Solstar]
#338083 - 03/25/15 11:01 PM


> > > Also, you mentioned Cyber Cycles, so I tried it and it runs at full speed on my
> > > Haswell i7.
> >
> >
> > Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K @ 4.22 GHz - 130.65% average, attract mode with sound
> > enabled.
> >
> > S
>
> opps i missed this.that's intersting as i could save some bucks there.how does
> Dolphion fares with this cpu you have?

No idea, I've never tried it. PCSX2 runs great, the problem is that is their mission statement must be something like "the ability to play other games besides Final Fantasy is just a nice side effect".

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Re: What's better for Mame\Dolphin\pcsx2 between an I5 and an I7? new [Re: Solstar]
#338091 - 03/25/15 11:41 PM


> opps i missed this.that's intersting as i could save some bucks there.how does
> Dolphion fares with this cpu you have?

The i5-3570K is in the chart I linked to above.



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