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We got the USA version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354520 - 05/21/16 09:11 PM
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Nice! Another one for the collection. I seem to recall MVC2J requiring a DC VMU to do unlocks and that they took a lot of that out for the US arcade release. It's been a long time, though, so I don't remember specifics.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354529 - 05/21/16 09:30 PM
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> We got the USA version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.
Isn't this exactly the same cartridge as the one already in MAME just with a AAMA sticker on it?
I bet there's only one cartridge for the world as the motherboard BIOS defines the region (so this USA cart would play in Japanese on a Japanese system).
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354530 - 05/21/16 09:34 PM
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Nope the program rom is a different part number. There should be an undumped Japan version as well. I'm not an expert on Naomi but I think some games use the bios for region and others had dedicated region program rom versions.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354531 - 05/21/16 09:38 PM
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> Nice! Another one for the collection. I seem to recall MVC2J requiring a DC VMU to do
> unlocks and that they took a lot of that out for the US arcade release. It's been a
> long time, though, so I don't remember specifics.
No version requires a VMU to unlock stuff. As players play the game, they win experience points which are added to a counter in the game (in fact it's stored on the NAOMI motherboard). The game "levels up" and new characters and new stages are unlocked when a certain value is reached. Japanese and American versions work the same way.
Using a VMU, the player can win points on the home version and directly use characters who may not have been unlocked yet on the arcade machine. But it's not mandatory since as times goes on, the machine will eventually gain enough points to have all characters unlocked.
The operator can level up the machine artificially using commands input in test mode. It works with both Japanese and English versions of the game but the codes to enter are different.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354533 - 05/21/16 09:48 PM
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> Nope the program rom is a different part number. There should be an undumped Japan
> version as well. I'm not an expert on Naomi but I think some games use the bios for
> region and others had dedicated region program rom versions.
Wow, I didn't know that. I know some Japanese games require a Japanese BIOS to run. Others behave differently according to the BIOS they detect but I've never encountered a game with a USA region specific program. What happens when you play this cart on a Export or a Japan system?
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
[Re: Nomax]
#354534 - 05/21/16 09:51 PM
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All my stuff is packed up so it will have to wait to get to rtw for experimenting.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
[Re: Smitdogg]
#354535 - 05/21/16 09:58 PM
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> We got the USA version of Marvel Vs. Capcom 2.
Don't tell the rom kiddies. God help us when they find out.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354542 - 05/21/16 11:20 PM
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Kiddies are usually only a problem if we're dealing with something that can't be released yet.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354546 - 05/22/16 02:03 AM
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> Wow, I didn't know that. I know some Japanese games require a Japanese BIOS to run.
> Others behave differently according to the BIOS they detect but I've never
> encountered a game with a USA region specific program. What happens when you play
> this cart on a Export or a Japan system?
several NAOMI games had regional releases, so far we've seen MvC2, House of the Dead 2, Virtua NBA, Wave Runner GP.
this doesn't mean they are require Japan or US BIOS to boot, but cartridges made for US was different.
in the case of last mentioned game - US game version uses protection ICs, 'original' Japan carts was not protected.
but all this looks quite odd, because it seems MvC2 and HotD2 had Japan+Export and USA versions. have no idea atm for what purpose.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
[Re: MetalliC]
#354555 - 05/22/16 09:47 AM
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> > Wow, I didn't know that. I know some Japanese games require a Japanese BIOS to run.
> > Others behave differently according to the BIOS they detect but I've never
> > encountered a game with a USA region specific program. What happens when you play
> > this cart on a Export or a Japan system?
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> several NAOMI games had regional releases, so far we've seen MvC2, House of the Dead
> 2, Virtua NBA, Wave Runner GP.
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> this doesn't mean they are require Japan or US BIOS to boot, but cartridges made for
> US was different.
> in the case of last mentioned game - US game version uses protection ICs, 'original'
> Japan carts was not protected.
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> but all this looks quite odd, because it seems MvC2 and HotD2 had Japan+Export and
> USA versions. have no idea atm for what purpose.
censorship, or to fuck players over with unfair difficulty based on operator demand?
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354563 - 05/22/16 03:53 PM
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> > > Wow, I didn't know that. I know some Japanese games require a Japanese BIOS to
> run.
> > > Others behave differently according to the BIOS they detect but I've never
> > > encountered a game with a USA region specific program. What happens when you play
> > > this cart on a Export or a Japan system?
> >
> > several NAOMI games had regional releases, so far we've seen MvC2, House of the
> Dead
> > 2, Virtua NBA, Wave Runner GP.
> >
> > this doesn't mean they are require Japan or US BIOS to boot, but cartridges made
> for
> > US was different.
> > in the case of last mentioned game - US game version uses protection ICs,
> 'original'
> > Japan carts was not protected.
> >
> > but all this looks quite odd, because it seems MvC2 and HotD2 had Japan+Export and
> > USA versions. have no idea atm for what purpose.
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> censorship, or to fuck players over with unfair difficulty based on operator demand?
Copy protection, the Winners Don't Use Drugs logo, extra languages (Europe + SA), maybe. Plus we love our bootleg arcade games down here.
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[Re: MetalliC]
#354692 - 05/26/16 12:51 AM
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Is there any chance if you can add an AVI output to demul? Reason I ask is because, I know MAME and final burner alpha has them.
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#354694 - 05/26/16 01:45 AM
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> Is there any chance if you can add an AVI output to demul? Reason I ask is because, I
> know MAME and final burner alpha has them.
https://obsproject.com/
This works great and uses very little CPU.
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[Re: gamerfan]
#354697 - 05/26/16 03:06 AM
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> Is there any chance if you can add an AVI output to demul?
I'm personally use 3rd party programs for recording videos from Demul, and they works fine, so I don't see any reason to waste my time on reinventing this wheel.
> Reason I ask is because, I know MAME and final burner alpha has them.
honestly, I do not understand why people thinking I must care about "there some features present in other emulators !!" ?
you must be thinking here is some sort of stupid childish competition games, like 'who is better', or 'who have more/better features' or something else like this.
you are very wrong, here is nothing like that.
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[Re: MetalliC]
#354769 - 05/27/16 08:34 AM
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> you must be thinking here is some sort of stupid childish competition games, like
> 'who is better', or 'who have more/better features' or something else like this.
> you are very wrong, here is nothing like that.
I have no idea what you are talking about. You're mistaken me for someone else.
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[Re: Foxhack]
#354770 - 05/27/16 08:38 AM
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I've tried that before. The problem is that it records directly to .mp4 before it gets to lossless resulting in bad quality. So I guess I'll stick with fraps.
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Re: DU: New age of USA heroes
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#354813 - 05/27/16 10:11 PM
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> I've tried that before. The problem is that it records directly to .mp4 before it
> gets to lossless resulting in bad quality. So I guess I'll stick with fraps.
Uh... it only does that if you tell it to do so? I captured stuff using various codecs before.
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