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The Nate
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Explorer still doesn't seem to be working
#368298 - 07/28/17 01:02 AM
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I downloaded the latest MAME, extracted it to my MAME folder, then got the Explorer ROM with the DECO Cassette ROM, but it still doesn't work. Maybe a clean install would fix that.
EDIT: Still gives me an error.

Edited by Sgt Jack V (07/28/17 01:07 AM)



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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: The Nate]
#368300 - 07/28/17 01:23 AM
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> I downloaded the latest MAME, extracted it to my MAME folder, then got the Explorer
> ROM with the DECO Cassette ROM, but it still doesn't work. Maybe a clean install
> would fix that.
> EDIT: Still gives me an error.

MAME is generally really precise in telling you why something won't run. What error message are you getting? I'm assuming you're missing files it expects.


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J:\MAME>mame64 -verifyroms cexplore
cexplore : dp-1180_b.dgl (32 bytes) - NEEDS REDUMP
romset cexplore [decocass] is best available
1 romsets found, 1 were OK.







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J:\MAME>mame64 -listroms cexplore
ROMs required for driver "cexplore".
Name Size Checksum
v0a-.7e 4096 CRC(3d33ac34) SHA1(909d59e7a993affd10224402b4370e82a5f5545c)
dsp-3_p0-a.m9 2048 CRC(2541e34b) SHA1(4f983513dbae1350c83a433dea77a4465748b9c6)
dsp-3_p1-.l9 2048 CRC(3bfff5f3) SHA1(4e9437cb1b76d64da6b37f01bd6e879fb399e8ce)
v0b-.7e 4096 CRC(23d929b7) SHA1(063f83020ba3d6f43ab8471f95ca919767b93aa4)
dsp-3_p0-b.m9 2048 CRC(b67a91d9) SHA1(681c040be0f0ed1ba0a50161b36d0ad8e1c8c5cb)
dsp-3_p1-.l9 2048 CRC(3bfff5f3) SHA1(4e9437cb1b76d64da6b37f01bd6e879fb399e8ce)
v0d-.7e 4096 CRC(1e0c22b1) SHA1(5fec8fef500bbebc13d0173406afc55235d3affb)
v1-.5a 2048 CRC(b66b2c2a) SHA1(0097f38beb4872e735e560148052e258a26b08fd)
rms-3_p2-.c9 1024 CRC(6c4a891f) SHA1(5c00cf8b1accfdbb1d61e9b3f6db1594dfbc608b)
v1-.5a 2048 CRC(b66b2c2a) SHA1(0097f38beb4872e735e560148052e258a26b08fd)
rms-3_p2-.c9 1024 CRC(6c4a891f) SHA1(5c00cf8b1accfdbb1d61e9b3f6db1594dfbc608b)
v1-.5a 2048 CRC(b66b2c2a) SHA1(0097f38beb4872e735e560148052e258a26b08fd)
v2.3m 32 CRC(238fdb40) SHA1(b88e8fabb82092105c3828154608ea067acbf2e5)
v4.10d 32 CRC(3b5836b4) SHA1(b630bb277d9ec09d46ef26b944014dd6165b35d8)
v3.3j 32 CRC(51eef657) SHA1(eaedce5caf55624ad6ae706aedf82c5717c60f1f)
dsp-3_p3-.e5 32 CRC(539a5a64) SHA1(7b7d3cc58ac6f95242240c97046e770d2fd20c96)
rms-3_p4-.f6 32 CRC(9014c0fd) SHA1(7405d39a5f4fcad821448ddaf6bd4e27c0c9e145)
dsp-3_p5-.m4 32 CRC(e52089a0) SHA1(d85c17809b089c6977ee9571f976af6f107fd4d3)
v2.3m 32 CRC(238fdb40) SHA1(b88e8fabb82092105c3828154608ea067acbf2e5)
v4.10d 32 CRC(3b5836b4) SHA1(b630bb277d9ec09d46ef26b944014dd6165b35d8)
v3.3j 32 CRC(51eef657) SHA1(eaedce5caf55624ad6ae706aedf82c5717c60f1f)
dsp-3_p3-.e5 32 CRC(539a5a64) SHA1(7b7d3cc58ac6f95242240c97046e770d2fd20c96)
rms-3_p4-.f6 32 CRC(9014c0fd) SHA1(7405d39a5f4fcad821448ddaf6bd4e27c0c9e145)
dsp-3_p5-.m4 32 CRC(e52089a0) SHA1(d85c17809b089c6977ee9571f976af6f107fd4d3)
v2.3m 32 CRC(238fdb40) SHA1(b88e8fabb82092105c3828154608ea067acbf2e5)
v4.10d 32 CRC(3b5836b4) SHA1(b630bb277d9ec09d46ef26b944014dd6165b35d8)
v3.3j 32 CRC(51eef657) SHA1(eaedce5caf55624ad6ae706aedf82c5717c60f1f)
cassmcu.1c 1024 CRC(a6df18fd) SHA1(1f9ea47e372d31767c936c15852b43df2b0ee8ff)
dp-1180_b.dgl 32 BAD CRC(c7a9ac8f) SHA1(b0a566d948f71a4eddcde0dd5e9e69ca96f71c36) BAD_DUMP
cexplore.cas 32768 CRC(fae49c66) SHA1(4ae69e2f706fdf30204f0aa1277619395cacc21b)
x1_made_in_japan_18.x1 4096 CRC(f2ca58f0) SHA1(5c9faeca6247b70586dc2a3765805ac96960ac79)
x2_made_in_japan_18.x2 4096 CRC(75d999bf) SHA1(7c257285d5b69642ec542dc56defdbb1f2072454)
x3_made_in_japan_18.x3 4096 CRC(941539c6) SHA1(2e879107f56bf258ad90fb83c2ab278027acb0bb)
x4_made_in_japan_18.x4 4096 CRC(73388544) SHA1(9c98f79e431d0881e20eac4c6c4177db8973ce20)
x5_made_in_japan_18.x5 4096 CRC(b40699c5) SHA1(4934283d2845dbd3ea9a7fa349f663a34fcdfdf8)
y1_made_in_japan_18.y1 4096 CRC(d887dc50) SHA1(9321e40d208bd029657ab87eaf815f8a09e49b48)
y2_made_in_japan_18.y2 4096 CRC(fe325d0d) SHA1(3e4aaba87e2aa656346169d512d70083605692c6)
y3_made_in_japan_18.y3 4096 CRC(7a787ecf) SHA1(5261747823b58be3fabb8d1a8cb4069082f95b30)
y4_made_in_japan_18.y4 4096 CRC(ac30e8c7) SHA1(f8f53b982df356e5bf2624afe0f8a72635b3b4b3)
y5_made_in_japan_18.y5 4096 CRC(0a6b8f03) SHA1(09b477579a5fed4c45299b6366141ef4a8c9a410)






Edited by B2K24 (07/28/17 01:26 AM)



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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: B2K24]
#368301 - 07/28/17 02:27 AM
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I'm not sure how to copy and paste the error message here, but it said something about ROMs like x1_made_in_japan_18.x1 missing.



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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: The Nate]
#368302 - 07/28/17 03:07 AM
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> the error message here, but it said something about ROMs like x1_made_in_japan_18.x1 missing.

As already guessed, it means the files from the pcb are still missing and are needed to play the game. The game requires roms from the pcb (dumped only weeks ago) and the file from the cassette that was dumped many years earlier. Most places probably only have files from the cassette....nothing from the pcb at this time.


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David Haywood

2017-07-02

split decocass class up so that the dongle types aren't polluting main class (#2429)

-/* 18 */ GAME( 1982, cexplore, decocass, cexplore, cexplore, decocass_state, decocass, ROT270, "Data East Corporation", "Explorer (DECO Cassette) (US)", MACHINE_NOT_WORKING )


+/* 18 */ GAME( 1982, cexplore, decocass, cexplore, cexplore, decocass_type1_state, decocrom, ROT270, "Data East Corporation", "Explorer (DECO Cassette) (US)", 0 )



- ROM_REGION( 0x4000, "user3", 0 ) /* roms from the overlay pcb */
- ROM_LOAD( "cexplore_overlay_roms", 0x0000, 0x4000, NO_DUMP )
+ ROM_REGION( 0xa000, "user3", ROMREGION_ERASEFF ) /* roms from the overlay pcb */
+ ROM_LOAD( "x1_made_in_japan_18.x1", 0x0000, 0x1000, CRC(f2ca58f0) SHA1(5c9faeca6247b70586dc2a3765805ac96960ac79) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "x2_made_in_japan_18.x2", 0x1000, 0x1000, CRC(75d999bf) SHA1(7c257285d5b69642ec542dc56defdbb1f2072454) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "x3_made_in_japan_18.x3", 0x2000, 0x1000, CRC(941539c6) SHA1(2e879107f56bf258ad90fb83c2ab278027acb0bb) ) // FIXED BITS (1xxxxxxx) (but correct?)
+ ROM_LOAD( "x4_made_in_japan_18.x4", 0x3000, 0x1000, CRC(73388544) SHA1(9c98f79e431d0881e20eac4c6c4177db8973ce20) ) // FIXED BITS (1xxxxxxx) (but correct?)
+ ROM_LOAD( "x5_made_in_japan_18.x5", 0x4000, 0x1000, CRC(b40699c5) SHA1(4934283d2845dbd3ea9a7fa349f663a34fcdfdf8) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "y1_made_in_japan_18.y1", 0x5000, 0x1000, CRC(d887dc50) SHA1(9321e40d208bd029657ab87eaf815f8a09e49b48) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "y2_made_in_japan_18.y2", 0x6000, 0x1000, CRC(fe325d0d) SHA1(3e4aaba87e2aa656346169d512d70083605692c6) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "y3_made_in_japan_18.y3", 0x7000, 0x1000, CRC(7a787ecf) SHA1(5261747823b58be3fabb8d1a8cb4069082f95b30) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "y4_made_in_japan_18.y4", 0x8000, 0x1000, CRC(ac30e8c7) SHA1(f8f53b982df356e5bf2624afe0f8a72635b3b4b3) )
+ ROM_LOAD( "y5_made_in_japan_18.y5", 0x9000, 0x1000, CRC(0a6b8f03) SHA1(09b477579a5fed4c45299b6366141ef4a8c9a410) )
ROM_END

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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: The Nate]
#368306 - 07/28/17 04:19 AM
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> I'm not sure how to copy and paste the error message here, but it said something
> about ROMs like x1_made_in_japan_18.x1 missing.

so you're missing the roms..

I'm struggling to understand posts like the one you've made.

We specifically say a game is now working because missing roms were dumped, and yet people seem to think the romsets they've had for years should still work. I don't understand the logic there.

The same is happening with World Rally 2, people seem to think it's a terrible thing that MAME now requires a new rom for it to run, and are utterly confused by that concept, even if all the posts talking about it talk about how the previously missing rom was dumped and the game is now playable.

If MAME says roms are missing then roms are missing, it's not the most complex of things, and it's getting rather tiresome seeing people claim games are 'broken' in MAME just because they don't have the correct roms. Changes are often needed to move forwards.



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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: gregf]
#368320 - 07/28/17 04:12 PM
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I honestly thought Emuparadise had the latest ROMs, it didn't.



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Re: Explorer still doesn't seem to be working new [Re: The Nate]
#368333 - 07/28/17 08:57 PM
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>had the latest ROMs, it didn't.

Go with a guess that after a recent release of MAME it might take from a few weeks to a month or so until a particular romset is updated on some site.


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