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Bart T.
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Re: Supermodel WIP Update: LeMans 24, Fighting Vipers 2, and Star Wars Trilogy
02/14/11 11:29 PM
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I hadn't seen that post, very interesting indeed! I've corresponded with Naibo a few times regarding some other things but it seems he's a pretty busy guy and I haven't heard from him in a while.

If you're reading this Naibo, some information on the vertex normal problem would be very helpful

I'm now 99.999% certain that the mesh data itself does not contain explicit vertex normals. When Naibo says "tricky", I take it to mean that they are computed automatically in some manner based on the polygon normals (otherwise it would seem to be a tremendous waste of memory to store polygon normals with such precision merely for backface culling).

There doesn't seem to be any explicit linkage information either, other than what already exists for polygon strips (allowing only the previous polygon's vertices to be reused, which is not enough for computing normals). What I'm looking into now is whether there might be an assumed fixed ordering of polygons, with a limit to how many faces a vertex can share. I highly doubt it, though.

Bart

Edited by Bart Trzynadlowski (02/14/11 11:31 PM)






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