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Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World.
11/09/13 09:46 AM


As with every other retro remake, I get the feeling this is going to turn out poorly. Monty Singleton, your various responses do give me hope, though.

> The descending into hell brings to mind Dante's INFERNO....but incorporating that
> would certainly make it an adult feature.
There is nothing "adult" about Dante's Inferno, except for that crappy new "reimagining" that no one should care about. Making the setting something like the REAL Divine Comedy (Inferno, of course) would actually be a sound idea.

> Your platform focus. You're going to be developing for 12-18 months at a minimum.
> When you're done...
>
> -360 and PS3 will be essentially dead due to being superceded.
That's rarely how consoles work. It's very likely that, like most last generation consoles, it'll do pretty well for itself a few years more. Sony themselves have released and will support one of their biggest games (Gran Turismo 6) for the PS3 so close to the PS4 release precisely because of this.

> -Ouya announced a new console for 2014, which is going to undermine confidence and
> likely kill the platform.
The platform was dead before it was even released. Absolutely nothing anyone can do to it will change that.

> -Wii-u is known to be doing poorly.
The Wii U is known to have been released too early; that's it. Now that we've reached its intended sell date (i.e. it has the games it was supposed to ship around), people really want one.

> -There's no guarantee yet that the X-box One or PS4 will sell well enough to be
> viable, especially given the huge drops in console sales for the last several years.
I can't even comment on how ridiculous this logic is.

> Without an anchor version of the PC where I would know it would be in existence and
> viable at the time of launch, I'm sadly unable to support your efforts. Your platform
> targets are too volatile for me to contribute.
Some PC version has not been an "anchor" for a very long time. By now, most development is prioritized for iOS and Android.

> "Designing the game like we want your quarters" also screams cheap US arcade AI as
> well. I'd reconsider if thats the goal. Also I always thought having to go through
> the game twice just to actually beat it was BS and a terrible design decision. Make
> the game longer, sure, but not repeat every level!
How is the looping mechanic in any way "bad design"? What about all those games that simply don't end because they loop forever; are they "bad" too?

The looping mechanic is good because it involved into a statement for "endurance". You could very easily split loops into individual difficulties... but that endurance has merit of its own; it really just comes down to personal opinion. When your game is still very short even when you're expected to beat it twice, and you're trying to adhere to a tradition that calls for it, you may as well just keep it in.

(Taking the Gradius 2 route and asking the player to redo the game in reverse is definitely one of the nicer ideas in this project.)







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* Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton 11/02/13 12:23 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CTOJAH  11/23/13 12:15 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CTOJAH  11/20/13 07:11 PM
. * ^Uh-Oh! :-o Tomu Breidah  11/20/13 09:25 PM
. * Re: ^Uh-Oh! :-o R. Belmont  11/20/13 09:58 PM
. * Re: ^Uh-Oh! :-o BIOS-D  11/21/13 12:38 PM
. * Re: ^Uh-Oh! :-o R. Belmont  11/21/13 07:40 PM
. * Re: ^Uh-Oh! :-o Tomu Breidah  11/21/13 08:08 AM
. * I'd like to see it become a FPS italieAdministrator  11/09/13 04:49 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Once  11/09/13 09:46 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/09/13 03:22 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. DiodeDude  11/03/13 12:59 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 01:21 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. DiodeDude  11/03/13 02:05 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Rygar9  11/02/13 04:39 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 01:07 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. StilettoAdministrator  11/02/13 06:05 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:03 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. DMala  11/02/13 08:07 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CiroConsentino  11/02/13 03:34 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:06 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CiroConsentino  11/03/13 12:07 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 05:26 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CiroConsentino  11/03/13 05:54 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Lewis King  11/02/13 02:37 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:14 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Lewis King  11/04/13 03:31 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/05/13 07:24 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. CTOJAH  11/02/13 12:35 PM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:34 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. "The Manuel"  11/02/13 04:04 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:39 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/02/13 06:01 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Traso  11/02/13 08:23 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:41 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. SmitdoggAdministrator  11/02/13 03:07 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/02/13 06:06 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Dullaron  11/02/13 10:45 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Monty Singleton  11/03/13 06:43 AM
. * Re: Reimagine classic arcade games. Ghosts 'N Goblins - Demon World. Lord Nightmare  11/03/13 09:01 AM

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