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Artman99
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Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation
06/16/16 08:24 PM
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*Crushes VF fan boy's dream.*

Lol. I do appreciate the PS2 analogy, though. It illustrates much more clearly to an end user (like myself) why model1 has been such a mystery after all this time.

I DO have one more question that isn't VF-oriented per say. VF PC was released by AM2 in 1996, just 3 years after the arcade release in 1993. And while there are minor differences (player selection menu graphics, BGM) the game looks and feels exactly like the original during regular gameplay. Yes, you need to select the "classic" graphics from a hidden settings menu, but then port becomes shockingly faithful. The fact that AM2 released this port so close to the original tells me that AT THE VERY LEAST they still had access to the original software/SDK/hardware to make the PC version.

I'll get to the point - I recall that another port of an arcade game series (I want to say one of the CAVE shmups on xbox360? I know it WASN'T the Taito series, which I realize runs on a modified WinXP format) essentially led to the decoding of the original roms, as a shell had basically been built around the rom to get it to run in a PC (ok...360 console) environment. Is there any chance that the "VF PC" software may contain hints to model1's functions? Yes, I'm grasping at straws, but it's not a totally outrageous idea. Even at the start of a match, the PC-version characters will often dance too quickly for a second before being throttled to the correct speed - perhaps the shell (emu?) isn't throttling the original code properly for that second or two?

Even the layout of the software on the disk is odd. Character models are in one folder, levels in another, sounds in another, BGM is recorded mix-mode on the game disk itself, etc. And it doesn't really install anything to run - just a shortcut. The executable itself is TINY by modern standards. The disk is kind of laid out the way an older rom is. ANY chance this could provide input to the emulation?

I own the software and would happy to send the original, LEGAL disk to a dev if I thought it would help.






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* Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr 03/25/16 01:15 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr  04/20/16 12:08 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation Roman  04/20/16 12:55 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr  04/20/16 01:23 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation Olivier Galibert  04/20/16 04:06 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation SailorSat  06/25/16 09:03 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation John IV  04/20/16 05:24 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation R. Belmont  04/20/16 09:15 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation jonwil  04/08/16 02:23 PM
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. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation R. Belmont  04/05/16 05:15 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation AaronGiles  04/05/16 06:59 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation Olivier Galibert  04/05/16 02:33 PM
. * May the Force be with you SmitdoggAdministrator  03/30/16 03:27 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr  03/26/16 04:40 PM
. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation drewcifer  03/27/16 09:19 AM
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. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr  03/29/16 03:28 AM
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. * Re: Star Wars Arcade (SEGA, 1993): fixing model1 emulation dkongjr  03/29/16 06:24 PM
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