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Re: Fonz and Death Race
04/13/20 05:39 AM


>I've tried that old program without much luck.

For new MW forum visitors not aware....it dates back to 2014
with Marc Lafontaine's graphics ripper program that was uploaded back then
and should be able to be still downloaded at this time.

time for PSE Desert Patrol mini thread *edit*
10/02/14 Attachment: rip081.zip 152 KB (17 downloads)

https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sh...part=1&vc=1


*excerpt of 2014 post giving brief usage info of how to work with ripper*

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For those that have seen data images for Bazooka and wonder how they were generated, it would likely be from Marc Lafontaine's program called Ripper which can be grabbed from here as a zip file attachment. The zip file also includes same instructions I typed here for how to view PSE game images and an image of airplane targets from Desert Patrol.

Marc Lafontaine contributed to MAME during MAME's early years such as this entry for release .13 from 1997.

0.13
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- Marc Lafontaine submitted a new palette for Zaxxon.



The program has capability of viewing images off of some roms of 1970s and some 1980s era arcade video games. For an example of describing how to view images of either PSE Bazooka or PSE Desert Patrol, load a file where it says file1 and press CP. Set the width to 32 and in the algorithm you have to change the bits to reverse order.


The 'change the bits to reverse order' might not make sense, but what this means is the user presses the algorithm button and then a different screen appears. User presses the Clear button, and after doing that then click on number buttons in direction of going from right to left side (ie 'reverse orer').

Once that is done, then press okay, then set width to setting of 32 and then press the CP button while Desert Patrol's file 'L4' is loaded as file1.

The images of various airplane targets will then appear on the screen, but in an upside down position. The upside down snap image, can be fixed by using a paint editor program to have the image rotated to a right side up position.
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Assuming any user has roms for either Exidy Death Race or Robot Hunting and have already downloaded Marc Lafontaine's graphics ripper program from old 2014 post. I don't have either rom set myself.


Experiment with proms type 82S123: 256-bit (32x8) TTL bipolar PROM with tri-state outputs

Try Robot Hunting rom set since that is considered valid compared to Death Race rom set.

Load up any of these four files within the Robot Hunting rom set to see if any images
are visible. Experimenting with ripper control settings may come into play. Good luck if
anyone tries to work with extracting any images from Robot Hunting with these four rom files: 6331-1.e7, 6331-1.r7, 6331-1.t7, 6331-1.g7



82S123 36 6331-1.e7 E7 right gremlin 1
82S123 36 6331-1.r7 R7 left gremlin 1
82S123 35 6331-1.t7 T7 left car 1
82S123 35 6331-1.g7 G7 right car 1


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src/mame/drivers/exidyttl.cpp

ROM_START( rhunting )


82S123 36 6331-1.e7 E7 right gremlin 1
82S129 J10 right gremlin 2
82S123 36 6331-1.r7 R7 left gremlin 1
82S129 91 10V left gremlin 2

82S129 V5 left car 1
82S123 35 6331-1.t7 T7 left car 1
82S123 35 6331-1.g7 G7 right car 1
82S129 J5 right car 1


image generation sheet 11J - 11M

GAME( 1976, rhunting, deathrac, deathrac, 0, exidyttl_state, empty_init, ROT0, "bootleg", "Robot Hunting (bootleg of Death Race) [TTL]",MACHINE_IS_SKELETON )
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For Sega Fonz fans, there are three roms that the Fonz pdf logic schematics file describes as 'shape' proms. Logic schematics for Fonz is vague so it will be a guessing
game with any of the three files: ic86.86, ic87.87, pr-08.50

Hopefully some image can be found/generated using ripper with Fonz romset.

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src/mame/drivers/segattl.cpp


IC86.86 MMI 6306 (dumped as AMD 27S13) 0390
IC87.87 MMI 6306 (dumped as AMD 27S13) 050D

PR-09.49 TI 74S287
PR-08.50 TI 74S287


ROM_START( fonz )

ic86.86 shape MM1 6306-1
ic87.87 shape MM1 6306-1
pr-09.49 245287
pr-08.50 shape 245287




GAME( 1976, fonz, 0, segattl, 0, segattl_state, empty_init, ROT0, "Sega", "Fonz [TTL]", MACHINE_IS_SKELETON )
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* Clean Sweep Schematics richr 10/05/13 06:40 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics richr  12/11/13 06:28 AM
. * Ramtek Wipe Out / Midway Leader stuff gregf  12/12/13 11:45 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Antny  12/12/13 02:42 AM
. * Wipe Out looks good there gregf  12/11/13 11:13 AM
. * Let the sweeping begin! richr  11/17/13 09:48 PM
. * Ramtek Clean Sweep pcb stuff gregf  11/20/13 09:57 PM
. * Re: Let the sweeping begin! gregf  11/18/13 01:09 AM
. * Re: Let the sweeping begin! Antny  11/18/13 02:23 AM
. * Re: Let the sweeping begin! gregf  11/18/13 03:35 AM
. * Re: Let the sweeping begin! richr  11/20/13 02:53 AM
. * Re: Let the sweeping begin! gregf  11/20/13 10:19 AM
. * OT: any plans for source portability to OS X? casm  10/06/13 02:28 AM
. * Re: OT: any plans for source portability to OS X? richr  10/07/13 06:12 AM
. * manuals / non-cpu status - updated March 2021 gregf  10/05/13 10:04 AM
. * *bumped* gregf  04/06/20 04:39 AM
. * Re: *bumped* Antny  04/06/20 08:07 PM
. * Re: *bumped* sirscotty  04/07/20 04:17 AM
. * Re: Fonz and Death Race gregf  04/07/20 09:49 AM
. * Re: Fonz and Death Race sirscotty  04/07/20 05:13 PM
. * Re: Fonz and Death Race StilettoAdministrator  04/08/20 11:56 PM
. * Re: Fonz and Death Race Antny  04/12/20 09:28 PM
. * Re: Fonz and Death Race gregf  04/13/20 05:39 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics *edit* keshbach1  11/02/13 02:38 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics *edit* ranger_lennier  10/31/13 01:55 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics richr  10/05/13 09:55 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Antny  10/07/13 01:46 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics gregf  10/05/13 10:35 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics CptGuapo  10/05/13 06:57 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics gregf  10/05/13 07:31 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Antny  10/05/13 04:43 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics gregf  10/05/13 07:44 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Brian Deuel  11/24/13 10:49 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics gregf  11/25/13 02:05 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics StilettoAdministrator  11/25/13 06:40 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Antny  11/26/13 05:40 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Moose  11/28/13 06:53 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Lord Nightmare  11/28/13 06:57 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Moose  11/28/13 07:52 AM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Antny  10/05/13 09:14 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics gregf  10/05/13 10:41 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Sly DC  02/26/14 09:10 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep bezel gregf  02/26/14 11:25 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics StilettoAdministrator  02/26/14 09:42 PM
. * Re: Clean Sweep Schematics Sly DC  02/26/14 10:15 PM
. * Re: Volly Flip Out etc. gregf  02/26/14 11:52 PM
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