> > MGs most times questionable behaviour aside, but i dont see anything he did wrong
> > here, he even asked for help, that is so trivial for anyone who loves fiddling with
> > shaders, that i am really shocked, that no one jumps in and says "hey, eaaasy. here
> > are the picts". its just a shame.
>
> I am completely at a loss how the thread derailed. The problem is that some of the
> shaders produces a black display and MG wanted proof that the shader wasn't just
> broken and then an idea of what it should look like in certain circumstances.
>
> He wasn't saying that he would only ever make it work with that one picture or the
> settings used. But an input image and output image on default settings is step 1.
>
> If nobody can be bothered to do it because they think MG is too dumb to realise that
> there could be issues that need fixing after the shaders output something other than
> black, then nothing will move forward.
It's actually quite obvious why it went downhill.
There's a problem with MAMEdev acting in a condescending way towards users, the "we're better than you" attitude. Sometimes it's passive, sometimes it isn't. I've noticed it myself*
Mooglyguy also has a reputation here, so anything and everything he says is going to be interpreted that way by default regardless of how it was actually meant. Now take the reply
"If you don't know what it means, I don't know what to tell you, because I actually described exactly what I meant by that in the post itself"
This reads as 'well you must be stupid' when really the parent was asking what was a legitimate question for a case that the original statement potentially didn't cover, it was something I was asking myself too but didn't post because it's not really something I'm interested in assisting with. Combine this with the already low opinion of devs, especially the dev concerned, and it's fairly easy to see why it flared up.
While there's no way to defend the user's outburst in the end it is very easy to see why it happened, it's a direct consequence of how users have been treated in the past, and the level of contempt shown towards them on here and in general, something I feel has got significantly worse in the last 6 months to a year. Even many of the GitHub comments read as abrupt and rude for things that maybe just need a little more work in order to be accepted. The way even some former devs are being slammed is disgraceful.
* sometimes it is deserved tho, for example people who continually and intentionally break the license terms or make changes that we can explain exactly why are damaging but continue to do so.
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