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Dullaron
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Re: Edit.
04/03/18 12:23 PM


> Dullaron, really no offend here, BUT the whole purpose of buying a 4k monitor for a
> MAME cab, would be for a better simulation of the shadow-mask (g-sync, free-sync
> aside).
> Now you come here and tell the people absolute wrong things, like turning the
> shadowmask completely off, because YOU dont see a difference, even on a real CRT-cab,
> at a reasonable distance from the screen.
>
> Seriously, if that would be true, dont you think that the devs would be removing all
> shadowmask parameters, because we wouldnt see a difference anyway?
> Shadowmasks and scanlines are the most remarkable characteristics of a CRT. While
> scanlines are most of the time (depending on screen resolution) very easy to handle
> to look authentic, shadowmasks are way harder to create a believable illusion. The
> higher the resolution of the screen is, the better it is for the shader to create
> realistic shadowmasks and in the case of a 4k monitor, you have 4x more pixels left
> to create a shadowmask. I go even further and say, that the current texture-mappings
> could need a update for such (4k) monitors. At the time, when they where added, the
> max. resolution for monitors was 1920x1080.
>
> So please Dullaron, dont advice people to turn off shadowmasks, especially in a
> thread like this. Not only that MAME have three different shadowmasks and by that,
> covering the most different CRT-setups, many people who are interested in these kind
> of things, would like to see all three shadowmasks. If shadowmasks are to dark for
> you, you obviously did something wrong with them or didnt compensate the "darkness"
> properly, by tinkering with other parameters like brightness, bloom etc.
> Your advice is a clear disrespect of the hard work of Mooglyguy, cgwg, Timothy Lotte
> and Jezze, to simulate one of the most important charcteristics of a CRT.
>
> I still have the hope that CiroConsentino will do some more screenshots with all
> shadowmasks that are availabe with HLSL settings that makes sense. Sadly i cant
> currently help with better settings, as i am not at home.
> Maybe some other users here, like B2K24 can help out with proper settings for the
> three different shadowmasks.

Real CRT and MAME HLSL/BGFX doesn't do the same thing. Real CRT have control over the color lines brightness while MAME can't do. There is a big different between those two.

Have to be emulated correctly or else not gonna look right on the fading and come back.

Now you see why I turn that off. Better than have those look incorrect with rainbows showing.


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Subject Posted by Posted on
* Card for 4K hlsl Dante82 04/02/18 04:08 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl krick  04/02/18 08:13 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl CiroConsentino  04/02/18 09:24 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl Dante82  04/02/18 10:59 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl CiroConsentino  04/03/18 01:36 AM
. * 4K Screenshot with HLSL applied (10MB file inside) CiroConsentino  04/03/18 02:52 AM
. * Re: 4K Screenshot with HLSL applied (10MB file inside) Dante82  04/03/18 12:32 PM
. * Dante82, You can test 4K rendering with your current vidcard today! (see how) CiroConsentino  04/03/18 02:06 PM
. * Re: Dante82, You can test 4K rendering with your current vidcard today! (see how) Dante82  04/09/18 01:56 AM
. * Re: Dante82, You can test 4K rendering with your current vidcard today! (see how) CiroConsentino  04/09/18 01:39 PM
. * Re: Dante82, You can test 4K rendering with your current vidcard today! (see how) Dante82  04/04/18 04:10 AM
. * Re: 4K Screenshot with HLSL applied (10MB file inside) Dullaron  04/03/18 03:11 AM
. * Re: 4K Screenshot with HLSL applied (10MB file inside) CiroConsentino  04/03/18 03:36 AM
. * Edit. Dullaron  04/03/18 03:37 AM
. * Re: Edit. CiroConsentino  04/03/18 03:44 AM
. * Re: Edit. B2K24  04/03/18 05:30 AM
. * Re: Edit. CiroConsentino  04/03/18 02:08 PM
. * Re: Edit. Dullaron  04/03/18 06:15 AM
. * Re: Edit. uman  04/03/18 10:06 AM
. * Re: Edit. CiroConsentino  04/03/18 02:28 PM
. * Re: Edit. Dullaron  04/03/18 12:23 PM
. * Re: Edit. uman  04/03/18 08:58 PM
. * Edit: Sorry about all this. Dullaron  04/04/18 12:32 AM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl CiroConsentino  04/02/18 05:50 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl B2K24  04/02/18 04:16 PM
. * Re: Card for 4K hlsl Dante82  04/02/18 04:46 PM

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